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More Info On CC

Last post 07-11-2009, 6:19 PM by Djoc. 3 replies.
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  •  07-11-2009, 9:03 AM 1793209

    More Info On CC

    Ok here I'm stay for 3 hrs in front of my laptop reading the post about hemmorhage skill on Dralor, and still completely clueless why it's can be stacked 3 times. Then I start to read all cc that have ongoing/replacement/triggered effect, and still half clueless to decide categories of effect frm the card.

    Then I think... Why UDE not give simple information on the effect in CC like stacked/not stacked to simply explain the skill on the card, eq: Hemmorhage: bla bla bla bla..... (stacked); its mean multiple hemmo can affect same target, is it better, coz will make player easy to understand what true ability each character posses.

    I not sure if this post should be put in here or in general discussion threads, so I ask for an appologize if I put it wrong... cheers.

    Btw: this almost make my head blow:
    1. is multiple elunes blessing can affect same character?(moonshadow)
    2. is multiple heart murmur can affect same character? (blakeheart hellcaller)
    3. is multiple gift of the wild can affect same character? (Thangal)

    I got confuse cause I read all and it have same description like Hemmo, it will be really make m head balow if that 3 skills can't be stacked while Hemmo can -_-.
  •  07-11-2009, 10:30 AM 1793281 in reply to 1793209

    Re: More Info On CC

    Basically the crux of the argument on whether an ability could (or couldn't) be stacked is whether it is either a triggered ability or a replacement ability. While both of these two looks for a condition for the effect to be fulfilled, there is a strict definition on replacement effect (CR709.1).

    For triggered effects, as long as two effects with the same name affecting a character is resolved in a wave. Only one of the effect is resolved on that character. However, replacement effects are not resolved in waves like triggered effects. When multiple replacement effects can replace a certain event, the character who is affected chooses one replacement effect to replace the event first and subsequently chooses another (if another still exists to replace the modified event).

    Hopefully this clears the issue up a little.

    CR1.05:

    709.1 Effects that use both “would” and “instead” are replacement effects. A replacement effect replaces a specified event with one or more modified events. The specified event never happens, so no abilities can trigger off it. Instead, the modified events happen, which may in turn trigger abilities.


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  •  07-11-2009, 5:36 PM 1793461 in reply to 1793281

    Re: More Info On CC

    So basicly any ability with the words would and instead is replacement effect and can be stacked?

    In this case if I play Amalar and using cleave; the second attack also triggered "Berserker Rage".

    Is that right logic?
  •  07-11-2009, 6:19 PM 1793492 in reply to 1793461

    Re: More Info On CC

    2411959:
    So basicly any ability with the words would and instead is replacement effect and can be stacked?

    In this case if I play Amalar and using cleave; the second attack also triggered "Berserker Rage".

    Is that right logic?

    Your wording make it look like you may not know how Cleave works (Maybe you already know, but I'm saying just in case.): Cleave is one attack roll with 2 defenders.

    As for your question, yes, both defenders will see any damage they recieve replaced by Berserker Rage.

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