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Last post 05-01-2008, 4:56 PM by oridean. 17 replies.
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  •  04-30-2008, 3:38 PM 1150695

    Price Point a killer?

    With a 66 figure set +epics and such, to get every figure in the set you'll need to spend $330 assuming you get absolutely no duplicates. Now epics are 1/8 boosters so you'll only be getting 3 epics assuming you get perfect distribution (your last epic would have to come out of 1/6 boosters). Assuming distribution is that excellent I'd have no problem buying sealed cases (assuming they will follow a market where you are able to do this). But having only 3 epics out of a currently unknown number I believe, they will promote booster diving of course. But at a $15 price point that's no small amount. I play another miniature game and the boosters are going to $12 for 5 figures and people are quiting over it. Although WoW mini's look much better and have a larger scale, they still are $15 for 3 figs. Do you think the price point will hurt WoW Mini's?

  •  04-30-2008, 3:56 PM 1150705 in reply to 1150695

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    It might hurt the younger crowd (i.e the ones with no jobs) but considering the amount of hype and buzz surrounding it, I don't think it should affect it too much. Alot of people if they can only afford 1 pack will still buy that one pack, it just sucks that they will be only getting... 1 pack.

    For me if they charged me an arm, a leg and my girlfriend I would still consider it, these babys look amazing lol
  •  04-30-2008, 3:59 PM 1150708 in reply to 1150695

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    The price is looking a bit steep, but its not changing my mind.  In fact I'm expecting there to be around 10-15 epics and then would need to spend 1200.00 to get 10 epics.  Although as I understand typically you can get much better prices than retail if you are buying several cases at a time.  Also, I'll be splitting the cost with 2 or possible 3 friends of mine. 

    How much would you have to spend to get a complete set of the game you play (at full retail price and assuming no duplicates of the epic rares(or whatever they call them))?


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  •  04-30-2008, 4:00 PM 1150710 in reply to 1150695

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    You have to realize they are not making this game strictly for collectors.  They are making it for gamers.  If you have the special need to have every single mini they make, then you can either make a thousand dollars on boosters or you can trade for the figures you need.  I don't think the price will be a problem.  While you only get 3 minis and assorted skill/stat cards, you must consider the size and detail of each mini.

    Consider DnD/SW minis.  They are jumping in price up to $12-$15 a booster.  I think each booster comes with 8 random figures.  While this is more figures, the quality of these isn't all that outstanding.  Some of the figures are quite nice, but the norm seem to just be churned out with no regard.

    Also, while we know there will be "epic" figures, they have made no mention of what other type of rarity there will be.  If you look at other popular mini game, such as Mage Knight, I do not recall there being anything besides the uinique figures and the "other" figures.  It is possible they could use this approach.

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  •  04-30-2008, 4:01 PM 1150712 in reply to 1150705

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    1615852:

    For me if they charged me an arm, a leg and my girlfriend I would still consider it, these babys look amazing lol


    That may become a cost in the long run as much as I'm looking in to this game.


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  •  04-30-2008, 4:03 PM 1150715 in reply to 1150708

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    2144941:

    How much would you have to spend to get a complete set of the game you play (at full retail price and assuming no duplicates of the epic rares(or whatever they call them))?



    If, by "game you play", you mean any other card game, it would more than likely cost about the same.  You have to consider most card games sets have over 200 in each set.  Again, I'm sure people will have duplicates of figures you don't have and vice versa.  Just trade for what you need if you gotta catch em all.

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  •  04-30-2008, 4:07 PM 1150720 in reply to 1150712

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    1214729:
    1615852:

    For me if they charged me an arm, a leg and my girlfriend I would still consider it, these babys look amazing lol


    That may become a cost in the long run as much as I'm looking in to this game.



    lol as long as I pay my rent and my bills she's pretty cool with anything I collect, I'll just make her pay for all the dinners the first few weeks I blow all my money on these :)
  •  04-30-2008, 4:33 PM 1150736 in reply to 1150708

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    2144941:

    The price is looking a bit steep, but its not changing my mind.  In fact I'm expecting there to be around 10-15 epics and then would need to spend 1200.00 to get 10 epics.  Although as I understand typically you can get much better prices than retail if you are buying several cases at a time.  Also, I'll be splitting the cost with 2 or possible 3 friends of mine. 

    How much would you have to spend to get a complete set of the game you play (at full retail price and assuming no duplicates of the epic rares(or whatever they call them))?

    Well it depends. The distribution is really good but probably $300 if I was buying from boosters but that gives you a chance at a piece worth about $150 and it's packed 1/40 or so boosters with the new set up. But if you ebay it you can get them much cheaper... I'm not willing to spend $1200 for one set though and I doubt many others are either. And we have no idea how good the distribution is going to be in this game. Horrible distribution and you start getting boosters worth nothing. If there is no rarity scheme (besides epics) that makes things a little weirder. You would take a lot of value out of a booster if everything was equal rarity. Each piece would have to run $5 all by itself and many pieces probably wouldn't be able to hold up to it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see :).

  •  04-30-2008, 4:35 PM 1150740 in reply to 1150710

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    1214729:
    You have to realize they are not making this game strictly for collectors.  They are making it for gamers.  If you have the special need to have every single mini they make, then you can either make a thousand dollars on boosters or you can trade for the figures you need.  I don't think the price will be a problem.  While you only get 3 minis and assorted skill/stat cards, you must consider the size and detail of each mini.

    Consider DnD/SW minis.  They are jumping in price up to $12-$15 a booster.  I think each booster comes with 8 random figures.  While this is more figures, the quality of these isn't all that outstanding.  Some of the figures are quite nice, but the norm seem to just be churned out with no regard.

    Also, while we know there will be "epic" figures, they have made no mention of what other type of rarity there will be.  If you look at other popular mini game, such as Mage Knight, I do not recall there being anything besides the uinique figures and the "other" figures.  It is possible they could use this approach.

    The sculpts do look very good but so do most paintmasters from every miniatures game.

  •  04-30-2008, 5:15 PM 1150779 in reply to 1150695

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    from what we have heard a booster will contain 3 minis of the same faction, so that will help people with a smaller budget a little bit. You know you will be getting figures that can be used together. it also appears games will normally be skirmishes with just a few figures used, so that will help people who want to play but don't have a lot of money.

    It also sounds like the starters should be playable for 2 people out of the box, so that helps as well.

    Saying all that I do feel the price is a bit high, but I will still be purchasing some, just maybe not as much as I would like.

  •  04-30-2008, 7:02 PM 1150979 in reply to 1150779

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    1116805:

    from what we have heard a booster will contain 3 minis of the same faction, so that will help people with a smaller budget a little bit. You know you will be getting figures that can be used together. it also appears games will normally be skirmishes with just a few figures used, so that will help people who want to play but don't have a lot of money.

    It also sounds like the starters should be playable for 2 people out of the box, so that helps as well.

    Saying all that I do feel the price is a bit high, but I will still be purchasing some, just maybe not as much as I would like.



    This was something I didn't notice at first, was a little apprehensive about, but have come to realize why its a good idea.  Having a booster box contain figures from the same faction helps with limited play as well as casual players.  The demo and map pics we've seen show the basic game to be small skirmishes, so casual players will be able to buy one booster and be able to play.  For limited, you can have players buy one booster and play from there.

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  •  04-30-2008, 8:49 PM 1151062 in reply to 1150740

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    2172923:

    The sculpts do look very good but so do most paintmasters from every miniatures game.



    They look lightyears better than anything from Wizkids in the past 5 years.
  •  05-01-2008, 2:32 AM 1151157 in reply to 1150708

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    2144941:

    The price is looking a bit steep, but its not changing my mind.  In fact I'm expecting there to be around 10-15 epics and then would need to spend 1200.00 to get 10 epics.  Although as I understand typically you can get much better prices than retail if you are buying several cases at a time.  Also, I'll be splitting the cost with 2 or possible 3 friends of mine. 

    How much would you have to spend to get a complete set of the game you play (at full retail price and assuming no duplicates of the epic rares(or whatever they call them))?



    1200 retail isn't to high, look at a crate of cards, 12 boxes, about $750 with a SRP of about $1200.

    any serious collector expects to get a full set out of a crate's worth.
    Any normal human buys a few boxes at most and then buy's what they need online individually.


    add to that that this is a game that uses 5 minis for a team instead of 10+ and you're definitly saving alot by having larger mini's for a slightly higher price.

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  •  05-01-2008, 8:23 AM 1151326 in reply to 1150705

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    1615852:
    It might hurt the younger crowd (i.e the ones with no jobs) but considering the amount of hype and buzz surrounding it, I don't think it should affect it too much. Alot of people if they can only afford 1 pack will still buy that one pack, it just sucks that they will be only getting... 1 pack.

    For me if they charged me an arm, a leg and my girlfriend I would still consider it, these babys look amazing lol

    I suspect it will also possibly hurt the married crowd that doesn't have tons of disposible income to blow on boosters of 3 minis and a 1/8 epic distribution.  I just got out of collecting DDM because of the rising cost and the fact that the minis were beginning to become redundant (how many drow do I really need?)  That said, I AM excited about WOW minis but at $15 a booster and only 3 minis a booster I seriously doubt I will ever get anywhere near a full set.

  •  05-01-2008, 8:38 AM 1151349 in reply to 1151326

    Re: Price Point a killer?

    see there ya go. I dont know if I'll get too far in terms of either a collection and such cause it IS $15. but i really want to get into the game. What i can  say though is that that price is gonna make the singles market for WoW minis explode. especially with the cool looking epics (whats up Varimathras?).
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