Kelemveor:

Seems cumbersome but it does explain how the new druid can heal if it crits off its normal attack and/or crit triggered melee attack while in Cat Form.

WoW Minis Comp Rules:

302.3    While a character is in a form that grants one or more new payment abilities, that character can’t play any other payment abilities (other than the ones granted by that form). Payment abilities that change that character into a different form are an exception to this rule and can still be played.

I got that. I was referring to the event where Vi'gor crits on Claw and subsequently crits on its crit-triggered attack. He heals on both instances as the crit-triggered attack is an attack as it satisfies the conditions for being an attack...(it is a payment ability which has a physical/magic power).

Don't you mean that the honor of a pet is 0 instead of the cost?

CR1.03:

304.2 Each pet is a character and has a clock, which is initially set to match its master’s clock after all summon costs have been paid. Each pet takes individual turns separate from its master. However, a pet is removed from play if its master is destroyed. Each pet has the same faction as its master. The cost of a pet is 0. Pets follow all character rules except for the following:

966558:

Can you put down the relevant CR sections so I can look to see what you're referring to please?

I really, really think its an oversight, but if it limits totem adjacency to a single space, screw you totems!

I would say that the spirit behind the rule is that two spaces that touch are adjacent. Therefore, their content are adjacent to each other.

Then, they added an exception for totems since they can be in the same space as another totem or another character. And then added the provision that something is not adjacanet to itself.

In fact, the main problem is how this is worded. There should not be distinction between characters and totems when looking at "adjacency" rules. Since flying characters can step through enemies, you can always step through your allies, and you can step through enemy pets, even characters can be momentarily in the same space and they should be considered adjacent when they are.

That being said, I made a discovery when reading the new rules, something I've been doing wrong since last february.

When reading pet rules (304), the last part is about "pet follow all character rules except for the following:"

(304.2a) Players score no VPs for destroying a pet. Pets don’t respawn. Pets don’t block LOS (405.3).

But there's an exception missing. Pets can be stepped through by enemies (as 404.1b points out, hidden among many other rules). Don't you think that this exception should also be listed in the pet exceptions at 304.2a (with a link to 404.1b, as was done for the LOS exception)? Even if only to make sure you have them all in one place and don't forget this them when searching pet rules? I've been making wrong judging calls based on this omission in the pet exceptions for over 2 months now...

855144:

Hello World,

An update to the comprehensive rules has been posted, you can download them here.


Your feedback is most welcome in this thread.

Thanks to everyone who contributed!
Ed.

--- Log of major changes between v1.03 and v1.04

300.2 A character can't have an ABC with a non-matching text description, non-matching class icon, or slots in excess of that slot's maximum.

302 Rules for equipment.

304.4 Totems can be damaged by triggered abilities that affect an "attacker" if that totem was attacking, and a "defender" if that totem was defending.

600.2 If "enemies can't attack X", they can't propose X as a defender, X can't become a proposed defender or defender, and their attacks can't be redirect to X.

601.1c If a crit ability creates an ongoing effect, it resolves and is applied immediately.

700.3 Abilites are either active, or inactive.

702.3 Rules for channel abilities.

704.2d/3b Triggered abilities and ongoing effects from multiple equipment with the same name can't affect the same character at the same time.


--- Log of major changes between v1.02 and v1.03

102.2 Simultaneous victory updated.

304.2 The cost of a pet is 0.

405.4 Range 4 LOS exception clarified.

709.6 Replacement effects and damage that would be dealt.


--- Log of major changes between v1.01 and v1.02

100.1a "Legendary" is not an ability.

301.2f Buffs/debuffs can be attached to a totem, but is removed immediately after the ability that attached it has finished resolving.

303.3 Totems can only be damaged by abilities that target them, or attacks that have been redirected to them.

404.5 An effect that switches two allies, simultaneously teleports each into the other's space.

405.2b Some abilities have no range. Unless otherwise specified, a character can only use such an ability on itself.

702.1 An action is a non-instant payment ability with a printed tick cost of 1 or greater.

704.2 Triggered abilities apply whether or not its source is in play, unless it can trigger only if its source is in play.

704.2c/3b Triggered abilities and ongoing effects from multiple totems with the same name can't affect the same character at the same time.

705.3 Resolving abilities that launch another ability follows the applicable rules for playing abilities.

Glossary

It's NEW!  v1.04 is up!!!

Cheers!

-teh Sig

1370438:

Does 601.1c mean that crits that generate -1 armor tokens (like Delyn) apply before the defense roll now?

Yup.

601.1c   If one or more crit results are rolled, the attack is a crit and each of any associated crit abilities triggers once. If a crit ability increases the amount of attack damage, it resolves immediately and increases the number of hits by the specified amount. If a crit ability creates an ongoing effect, it resolves and is applied immediately. Otherwise, it waits to resolve during 602.2.

401.1c  Unnamed counters on a card increase or decrease the stats (power, health, armor, resist, or move) of that card. Such a counter generates an ongoing effect (708) until it’s removed.

Cheers!

-teh Sig