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New hero problems

Last post 07-04-2008, 7:05 AM by jordandelandgow. 13 replies.
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  •  07-03-2008, 7:09 AM 1267702

    New hero problems

    So, there is that girl that has SEXtuple wield and on the back side of this card , it says that youn can include any weapon and neutral quests... But what kind of abilities and allies can you include in this deck?!!? I hope it isn't only a deck filled with quests and weapons.... And I got another question: when it says ANY warlock or ANY ally, is it correct if I put Alliance AND Horde allies in my deck?

    I think that's all I wanted to know.

    Thanks for the replies!!!


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  •  07-03-2008, 7:17 AM 1267716 in reply to 1267702

    Re: New hero problems

    The neutral demon heroes specifiy what cards they can use. If it isn't on there, they can't use it.

    Mother Misery can only have melee weapons and neutral quests that do not have any other text restrictions. Nothing else can be in the deck.

    Xia can have any warlock abilities and any warlock allies (you can mix both Alliance and Horde) assuming they don't have other text restictions.


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  •  07-03-2008, 8:16 AM 1267876 in reply to 1267716

    Re: New hero problems

    996018:

    Xia can have any warlock abilities and any warlock allies (you can mix both Alliance and Horde) assuming they don't have other text restictions.

    I don't think there are any warlock allies that can only be used with either horde or alliance.  They are all neutral.  At any rate, the important distinction is that the card says "any warlock allies" not "any allies". 

  •  07-03-2008, 8:23 AM 1267897 in reply to 1267876

    Re: New hero problems

    1934077:
    996018:

    Xia can have any warlock abilities and any warlock allies (you can mix both Alliance and Horde) assuming they don't have other text restictions.

    I don't think there are any warlock allies that can only be used with either horde or alliance.  They are all neutral.  At any rate, the important distinction is that the card says "any warlock allies" not "any allies". 

    By Warlock allies, it means allies with the Warlock in their tag line, not pets, becuase the actual text is allies with the Warlock type.


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  •  07-03-2008, 8:31 AM 1267923 in reply to 1267897

    Re: New hero problems

    996018:
    1934077:
    996018:

    Xia can have any warlock abilities and any warlock allies (you can mix both Alliance and Horde) assuming they don't have other text restictions.

    I don't think there are any warlock allies that can only be used with either horde or alliance.  They are all neutral.  At any rate, the important distinction is that the card says "any warlock allies" not "any allies". 

    By Warlock allies, it means allies with the Warlock in their tag line, not pets, becuase the actual text is allies with the Warlock type.

    Oh.  Yup.  You're totally correct.  My main point was that wowtcgdb is wrong though and that was the text that the OP was using.

  •  07-03-2008, 8:35 AM 1267936 in reply to 1267923

    Re: New hero problems

    1934077:
    Oh.  Yup.  You're totally correct.  My main point was that wowtcgdb is wrong though and that was the text that the OP was using.

    I see. Maybe someone should send them the new OCR that is now available.


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  •  07-03-2008, 6:56 PM 1270179 in reply to 1267936

    Re: New hero problems

    Thanks guys!! but I don't get it...HOW can you create a deck by using only quest and weapons...How can you possibly win with this kind of deck...you can't interrupt mostly of your oponent's spells etc..., you can't boost yourself with buffs etc....You can't protect yourself using allies....It will be really strange playing with like 30 weapons and 30 quests loool... And the little Imp dude with 8 health and elusive is really easy to destroy...You just blast him with abilities or just place an Invisibility if you're a mage.

    Thanks again,

    Jord


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  •  07-03-2008, 7:02 PM 1270199 in reply to 1270179

    Re: New hero problems

    That's more of a strategy question, but for instance, the one that can include melee weapons can have 6 "hands" worth of weapons out at a time.  Getting beat on with 6 weapns every round seems like it might hurt a bit.
  •  07-03-2008, 7:47 PM 1270349 in reply to 1270199

    Re: New hero problems

    yeah especially if you can get 4 whisper blades out quickly

     

    each blade will hit for 4 dmg each

     

    16 dmg for 4 cost swing.. well worth it i think.. i am probably going to give it a try myself


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  •  07-03-2008, 9:11 PM 1270504 in reply to 1270349

    Re: New hero problems

    2086719:

    yeah especially if you can get 4 whisper blades out quickly

     

    each blade will hit for 4 dmg each

     

    16 dmg for 4 cost swing.. well worth it i think.. i am probably going to give it a try myself

    ...which leaves 2 hands free for The Bringer of Death, if your opponents board starts to overwhelm you...


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  •  07-04-2008, 12:19 AM 1270613 in reply to 1270504

    Re: New hero problems

    the only ally that is a warlock that Xia cannot use is Dramla Lifebender because she is Undead Hero Required.  Xia, seemingly a crappy warlock, isnt as bad as i thought she would be, but definitely not a tier 1 deck.  gets straight rolled by rush/burn.  20 health doesnt go far.  (demon armor is amazing for her btw)

    for mistress, there are a crapton of weapons.  and when u can use ALL of them, and up to 6 at a time, u can put together some crazy things.  obviously the bad thing, ur vulnerable to solo hate, and item hate, and both are plentiful.  currently im just seeing mistress rush attacks, whispering blades, cheapo weapons.  but i think u might be able to incorporate some control into her, with bringers, terroks shadstaff, silent fangs to counter with, terokks quill or hellreaver to use on defense swings so ur not so open to being smacked on their turn.  i think she has more options than people are using right now.  ima go make one actually...

    right now most of the demon heroes are not going to be winning heroes for their limitations on building, which may result in only a couple, if any, viable builds, and their general lack of ability/item removal.  Some of them have some, but not much.

    Obliveron seems accepted as the best demon hero at the moment.


  •  07-04-2008, 12:29 AM 1270620 in reply to 1270613

    Re: New hero problems

    Obliveron might be the only Demon who can make it into constructed. The rest have high possibilities in say, draft or sealed.
  •  07-04-2008, 12:34 AM 1270625 in reply to 1270620

    Re: New hero problems

    2172862:
    Obliveron might be the only Demon who can make it into constructed. The rest have high possibilities in say, draft or sealed.

    I do not really see any of the demons in draft or sealed. Especially with the rigid deckbuilding rules (and having the Alliance/Horde demon for their power is self-defeating in non-constructed). Right now they are more of fun decks rather than anything. However, their powers are suitably low that you can actually add them in raid decks as a buffer for the bosses.

    Imagine fighting against Shazzrah in Molten Core and Pinprick just happens to walk by...


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  •  07-04-2008, 7:05 AM 1270806 in reply to 1270625

    Re: New hero problems

    Yeah, that what I was thinking...And you can even create your own raid.
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