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will burial from a difernt dimension work while D fissure or macro is on the field?

No.

cards that would return are redirected to the RFP zone, so they never leave the RFP zone.

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Though technicly, the card would work then, right?
It would atempt to sent the cards to the graveyard and then remove them from play again.
So in that case could it have practical aplication for cards that have effects that involve them or other cards being removed?

Sould Absorbtion as an example?

Just a thought ;)

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cards that would return are redirected to the RFP zone, so they never leave the RFP zone.

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they never leave the RFP zone, because they cannot be in a limbo. thay are in 1 zone or in other, so, as they attempt to go to grave, but they are redirected to RFP, they nerver leave it

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Though technicly, the card would work then, right?
It would atempt to sent the cards to the graveyard and then remove them from play again.
So in that case could it have practical aplication for cards that have effects that involve them or other cards being removed?

Sould Absorbtion as an example?

Just a thought ;)

As been stated every other time:

No it doesn't work that way.  I still say you can't activate it since nothing can happen.

and if chanin MST to cosmos it cannot be activated? It an be activated, but the cards won´t go anywhere

you dont know if a card like that can be cahined so when BFADD resolves he will be able to put the monsters in grave

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Play MST first, destroy Macro Cosmos, then activate Burial from a Different Dimension.

You cannot activate effects if they are going to do nothing, even if you plan on doing something later in the chain that might make it valid.  If my opponent has nothing on his field, I can't activate Raigeki even if I'm planning on chaining Ojama Trio to it.

let´s see what do simon say...

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If you dont agree with Ryoutaro has to say, use the search function and you'll find that this topic has been answered a few times.

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Play MST first, destroy Macro Cosmos, then activate Burial from a Different Dimension.

You cannot activate effects if they are going to do nothing, even if you plan on doing something later in the chain that might make it valid.  If my opponent has nothing on his field, I can't activate Raigeki even if I'm planning on chaining Ojama Trio to it.

He's never been wrong since I've been here, so I'll trust him.

And, the ruling makes perfect sense

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I don't know, I tend to disagree with that. I think there is a limbo place. Like when you pickup cards to an effect like reasoning. Thouse cards are not in your hand and are in none of the zones.
I think it makes sence for the cards to be picked up out of the removed from play zone, they want to go to the grave and are removed from play by macros again.
Since macros dose not have an effect that keeps cards removed from play, it just removes cards that would be sent to the graveyard.
And in the instance where you had soul absorbtion or a D.D scout plane, the move would have a point, gaining you life or removing from play your scout planes (assuming the planes were negated or destroyed multiple times in the end phase before)

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Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I've been wrong on occasion before.

I should also just copy/paste what I've said every other time this came up.

The only time the "limbo" zone comes into play is when a monster is summoned and you go to negate it.  The monster isn't considered to be in hand or on the field.

Cards picked up from Reasoning are considered to go from the Deck to the Graveyard.

The issue also isn't that Macro Cosmos keeps things removed from play.  It just alters things so that anytime someone would say "send to Graveyard" as part of the effect effectively becomes "remove from play".  It's a Continuous Effect.  No chain.  Smooth, seamless transition.

Burial from a Different Dimension cannot do anything while Macro Cosmos is out.  The reason being is that Macro Cosmos ends up making the effect of Burial to read "Take monsters out of play and return them out of play".  So basically the monster never leaves the Removed from Play area.  The destination of the card is the same as where it is so nothing happens.

If you had anything that ended up saying:
Select a monster in your graveyard and return it to the graveyard.

or

Select a monster in your deck and return it to your deck.

or

Select a monster in your hand and return it to your hand.

Do any of these things make sense or are doable?  In all these examples the card starts off where it ends.  Your effect does nothing.  You can only move something where the destination is different.

"Simon says"......

IF "Burial from the Different Dimension" can be activated while cards like "Macro Cosmos" are active, it won't do anything.  The cards will not leave the RFP Zone.

Why does "Simon say" this?  Because "Simon" believes that the term 'return' is still considered to be 'sending' a card to the Graveyard, and therefore will be redirected to the RFP Zone.

There are others that believe that a card 'returned' to the Graveyard is not 'sent', and therefore will not be affected by cards like "Macro Cosmos".

We are currently awaiting an answer from UDE/Konami on this situation.

It would be best if you ask the Head Judge of whatever tournament you are attending how they will be ruling the situation.

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