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Untargettable effects carification please?

Last post 09-26-2009, 1:00 AM by Biblios. 5 replies.
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  •  07-26-2009, 8:54 PM 1803134

    Untargettable effects carification please?


    There are many cards that either say...

    • {character(s)] cannot be targeted by effects opponents control.
    • {character(s)] cannot be the target by opposing effects.                                                                 Example: Human Torch - Heralds
      You and your characters cannot be the target of opposing effects.
    Be the target of...
    This kind of dennotes and implies any thing that has to do with the effected object.

    Q1. Do these two effects have a difference?
            At first, they seem similar to me, but took a closer look and i think that effects opponents control mean any effect that the opponents control; as for opposing effects, means effects that oppose you, not effects that target your character to modify their own. (hope this is understandable)

    Q2. If the controller of one of these cards cannot be targeted by effects opponents control or cannot be the target by opposing effects, does this mean that i also cannot be chosen, cannot be effected by opposing effects from hunter characters (even though the giving of the keyword hunted is not opposing, but the effects that effect hunted characters[the effect does not specifically say target but it does mention MY CHARACTER])?

    Q3.Also does that mean I nor my characters can be effected if the effect mentioned in any way in an opposing effect?


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  •  07-27-2009, 11:34 AM 1803511 in reply to 1803134

    Re: Untargettable effects carification please?

    A1. They are the same thing.

    A2. Even if they can not be Targeted, they can still be chosen because that is not targeting.

    A3. It only prevents effects that Target. Effects that target always use the word 'target'. So if an opposing effect does not use the word 'target', then you and your characters can still be affected.

    One step further. If you already have the power in play that says you and your characters can not be affected by opposing effects, then your opponent can not even select you or your characters as targets. If the effect is already on the chain and then you gain the protection from opposing effects, then when the effect resolves it will check to see if there are legal targets. If all the targets are you or your characters, then the effect is negated. If any of the effects also target his own characters or himself, then those parts of the effect will still resolve.

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  •  09-19-2009, 2:14 PM 1834016 in reply to 1803511

    Re: Untargettable effects carification please?

    Ok now if you have the Human Torch from before and your opponent plays The End That All That Is plot twist.

    The End That All That Is states that Each Player....
    So does it work on me?


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  •  09-19-2009, 4:04 PM 1834041 in reply to 1834016

    Re: Untargettable effects carification please?

    If a card does not use the exact word "target" it does not target and thus is not stopped by HUman Torch's effect.

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  •  09-20-2009, 9:39 AM 1834228 in reply to 1834041

    Re: Untargettable effects carification please?

    Thanks for the clarification.
    Bummer...

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  •  09-26-2009, 1:00 AM 1836483 in reply to 1834228

    Re: Untargettable effects carification please?

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