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Negate vs played

Last post 07-21-2009, 1:51 PM by DClown. 4 replies.
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  •  07-15-2009, 11:17 PM 1796723

    Negate vs played

    If Kaustron's first summon was counterspelled is his Revive Pet condition active?

    there are a couple of seemingly conflicting rules on this.

    703.1f which defines when an ability has been 'played' comes before the react window but negatation definition states that the ability does not resolve and "has no impact on the game".

  •  07-16-2009, 12:19 PM 1797053 in reply to 1796723

    Re: Negate vs played

    Awww...  in the latest round of answers Skey answered everyones questions but mine :(  I feel unloved.
  •  07-20-2009, 2:25 AM 1798823 in reply to 1797053

    Re: Negate vs played

    703.1e At any time during the above steps, if the player is unable to finish playing the ability, the entire
    process is rewound and the game state reverts to the state before playing the ability was attempted.


    703.1f After the above steps are completed, that ability becomes played, and the following happens in order.

    703.1h A window opens for reacts that can be played “only when an enemy plays an ability” and, in the case
    of an attack ability (600), reacts that can be played “only when an attack targets [a character]”, “only
    when [a character] is targeted by an attack.”, or “if [a character] is in the affected area of an enemy
    AOE attack.”
    If a react played during this window negates that ability, that ability does nothing more and its costs are not refunded.


    It is a tricky thing.
    Normally, cause the window for counterspell opens later than 703.1f the ability should count as played.
    But the little phrase "Negate that ability" is what makes it tricky.

    But it only says "If a react played during this window negates that ability, that ability does nothing more and its costs are not refunded."
    So it is not rewoundded like there where problems before step 703.1f, it just "does nothing more".
    So it still counts as played and VK may use his ability to revive his pet.
  •  07-21-2009, 12:04 PM 1799796 in reply to 1797053

    Re: Negate vs played

    DClown:
    Awww...  in the latest round of answers Skey answered everyones questions but mine :(  I feel unloved.
    Sorry DClown, I meant no disrespect.  I could not address your question because I was waiting for clarification from UDE on the subject, which I did not receive until Friday after arriving at the event.

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  •  07-21-2009, 1:51 PM 1799853 in reply to 1799796

    Re: Negate vs played

    I was just poking at ya, I figured it was non obvious.  Thanks for the reply :)
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