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Before everyone starts pointing out that there are other threads discussing this matter,let me say that none covers what I want to know.
So with that out of the way,here is the question.
The sneak preview here in Greece hasn't taken place yet,and will either take place this or the next weekend.With that in mind should the TO's do deck swaps?
I ask that,because even though Alex's answer is that a deck swap shouldn't happen in Yugioh,since the sneak previews,are the only sealed pack tournaments held,anyone with a credit card,could have bought any card he wanted from ebay,and use it as if he pulled it out of a booster.
Furthermore,since the number of rares-supers-ultras etc. isn't fixed anymore,since one could pull a rare and an ultra on one pack,the person putting in cards,could simply claim to have opened all 5 ultras he has in his deck.
This to me,is unsportmanship-cheating,but there is no way to prove it,or prevent it,other than deck swaps.

There still isn't a need to do a Deck Swap in this case.  What is the difference between your scenario and one where someone participates in Open Dueling 3, does a bunch of trading, than enters the Sealed Event?

I would take precautionary methods to avoid cheating.  I personally have the players clear everything from the table.  Having a judge or two walking around is also recommended.

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Franklin Debrito
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We had someone DQed for something else before we could investigate the highly suspicuous fact that they had five Psychic Snails in their sealed deck (we used no decklists).

When I opened all my judge product compensation, which is much greater than the five packs someone gets for a sealed tournament, I got one Pyschic Snail out of every 9 packs, not 1 : 1.

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Formerly ZombieMasterBlud
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out of my 12 open-dueling boosters (2 times through completely) I pulled 5 Psychic Snails.

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out of my 12 open-dueling boosters (2 times through completely) I pulled 5 Psychic Snails.

It's not so much that it's impossible, but with the number of packs each player gets, it's highly unlikely.

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All I can say now is that if Snail Magnet returns from suspension, he will remain on my personal radar until his actions prove otherwise.

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Formerly ZombieMasterBlud
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I like the idea of a deck list for the Sneak Preview flights.   This could even be easy to implement, if UDE would give us a spoiler list of cards before-hand.  Just give the players a pre-printed list of card names for them to mark/check how many of each they pulled.  Quick, efficient, and help nail cheaters.

So,  for UDE, I am thinking it would not be too difficult for you to include all card names (both those with and without rulings) on the advanced rulings page.  (Names of Secret rares would be nice, but not required.)   We can do the rest from there.  How about it?

Enjoy the game

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I like the idea of a deck list for the Sneak Preview flights.   This could even be easy to implement, if UDE would give us a spoiler list of cards before-hand.  Just give the players a pre-printed list of card names for them to mark/check how many of each they pulled.  Quick, efficient, and help nail cheaters.

So,  for UDE, I am thinking it would not be too difficult for you to include all card names (both those with and without rulings) on the advanced rulings page.  (Names of Secret rares would be nice, but not required.)   We can do the rest from there.  How about it?

Enjoy the game

Hmmm.  In my Sneak Previews, we have Deck Lists with a list of all the cards in the set.  I don't know if it comes directly from Upper Deck or the PTO creates one himself.

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Franklin Debrito
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My solution for deck swaps has been the following:

Before each sneak preview we receive sealed deck checklists.  We do not tell the players whether or not we'll be doing a deck swap.  We ask them to ONLY register the cards they have opened on the decklist.  After their 20 min registration time we collect the decklists from each of the players.  They then receive an additional 30 minutes to construct the decks.  We do deck checks on each of the four rounds, this is important as it shows the players that we are not laissez faire about the registration process.

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Personally, i think there should be a new starterdeck released with every series. That way when prerelease hits, the duelists are handed a starterdeck and only 2 packs.

 

But I know that would only be a mood point.... hey maybe i should get a tournament set up for that style. A person enters with the starter that they just bought, and is handed 2 of the newest packs, and can only use those cards for a tournament. That would be awesome, it would show who's the best at thinking on thier feet.

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Hypnotyc, that is what we do for WoW. However, UDE has stated that for YGO we should not be doing any kind of deck swap.

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I work with Hypnotyc at Sneak Previews and he knows that we do not do Deck Swap for YGO anymore.  I believe he is simply explaining how a proper Deck Swap would go.

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Franklin Debrito
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The PTO does receive a decklist with their event information.  It has all the cards listed and 2 boxes by each card, one to mark the total number of the cards received and the second to mark the total number they use in their deck.  Having the players fill out the decklist does slow down the tournament somewhat and it can be a little challenging for the younger (and new to Yu-Gi-Oh!) players.  You may want to base your use of the decklist on the age and experience of your sneak preview crowd.

We run our sealed event as the first event of the day and then start the open dueling area about and hour later so that helps with the issue with the "super deck".  As Franklin suggested we also have our judges in the area during deck construction to answer questions, pick up trash and watch for cheating.

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Andrew Bowling
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Hypnotyc, that is what we do for WoW. However, UDE has stated that for YGO we should not be doing any kind of deck swap.

Actually, I do not think anywhere he mentioned that a swap is performed.  

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Erik Mock
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I was not meaning to imply that he was and I apologize if it came across that way. I assumed he mainly ran WoW sneaks and I was just clarifying for other readers what we have been told about YGO sneaks.

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