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1260747:

I don't like this change, because in my country the national tornament is this wekend.

 

 

Again for the 10th time this topic: That's the whole idea.

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I guess all comments are valids, some of us in favor and others in discontent with this, but the important is that all of us must accept the changes in the format for one simple reason, the game will be fair for all the competitors and not all could have the topdeck in the format. One of the basic rules for me in this game (that I really like too much) is, innovate or die, and these are the moments in which the true duelists could demostrate the truly potential they have. I run DAD Return (I prefer say  it "Perfect Dark"), and must admit the intempestuos change for me has be difficult, but i love the challenge and i´ll try the times necessary for my game become more consistent. Luck to all with the changes, these are steps to become more strongers.

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Has anyone looked at the results of Nashville? Out of the 16 decks, 14 were DAD Return.

In other words: Sorry, UDE, it didn't work.

But it doesn't matter since LODT will be out any day and we'll all be wanting Judgment Dragon and Gyzarus limited or banned and noone will care about the new changes.

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if im not wrong the traditional format is just a copy of the advanced format with the banned cards all shifted into limited right?im actually thinking they shd make traditional,as its called,the original limitations on any card when it 1st came,eg pot of greed 1,magician of faith 3,etc

1300844:

if im not wrong the traditional format is just a copy of the advanced format with the banned cards all shifted into limited right?im actually thinking they shd make traditional,as its called,the original limitations on any card when it 1st came,eg pot of greed 1,magician of faith 3,etc

the limited list in traditional is indeed the banned and limited lists in the advanced combined
the new list did not stop DAD decks, but it did stop all those ftks/otks

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Never say never.....oops I just did
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well then, blame the economy

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the new list did not stop DAD decks, but it did stop all those ftks/otks

Keep in mind that FTK only made 1 Day 2 showing at Minneapolis, the last Shonen before the changes, and it was eliminated in the Top 8. I've playtested the deck myself and found that it draws really dead, with too many draw cards and not enough fuel for them or the other way around. Remember, one of the two players playing Priestess FTK at Columbus lost 1 round in the Swiss and the other lost 2. The deck isn't undefeatable; in fact, far from it.

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didn't erin diaz placed second with a shadow priestes deck?

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FTK FTW
Never say never.....oops I just did
"Nobody dast blame this man." - Death of a Salesman
well then, blame the economy

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that was sjc columbus, the one before minneapolis ( where john hammond top 8 with ddt)

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For people that do not think the list has helped the format at all, I ask you this then, "Why did monarchs make it back to the Top 16?" The format has slowed down and people did not take, have the time, or did not want to chance playing a new deck in an unknown format. The next Jump, lightsworm will be legal and we will see the meta change, for better or for worse. I will admit I wanted the mid-list change as well and I am happy with what it is. I do not own a single Dark Armed Dragon nor Judgment Dragon and I believe I can be just as competitive as they can. Use originality and unique styles to combat the dominant decks.

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2074663:

"Why did monarchs make it back to the Top 16?"

i think the more relevant question would be,
"Why did more DAD decks made day 2 at Nashville than at the last Shonen Jump Championship?"

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Never say never.....oops I just did
"Nobody dast blame this man." - Death of a Salesman
well then, blame the economy

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The reason so many DAD decks made Top 16 is because people did not try other decks as much as people thought they were going to. For decks to make an impact there normally needs to be more then 1 of them at the event so that luck factor is more on the decks side.

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2074663:

The reason so many DAD decks made Top 16 is because people did not try other decks as much as people thought they were going to. For decks to make an impact there normally needs to be more then 1 of them at the event so that luck factor is more on the decks side.

Well, they apparently didn't need to, because they did well anyways. Keep in mind that there were only 2 Gladiator Beast decks at Minneapolis, or at least only 2 that were any good.

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ok with this new ban list ya it messes with dark armed return but what about the new light set theres cards in this set that are rediculous like the one monster thats 2300 atk and its one of the new lightsworm monsters its better the dark armed dragon and judgement dragon dont even get me started on that card pay 1000 lp blow up the field can u say DEMISE judgement dragon is easyer to get out then dark armed i say if ur gonna go after one deck with a mid formate change u should go after a deck thats just started to be played too cause u already know its gonna be at the top i can see it now at the rochester reginals Samuria VS judgement dragon in the game for 1st place dad return will prob be up there but theres only maybe tops 3 people with 3 dad return decks and only one from what ik has crush card so we will just have to see what happens

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ya i have 3 dads and i pulled them too

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ok with this new ban list ya it messes with dark armed return but what about the new light set theres cards in this set that are rediculous like the one monster thats 2300 atk and its one of the new lightsworm monsters its better the dark armed dragon and judgement dragon dont even get me started on that card pay 1000 lp blow up the field can u say DEMISE judgement dragon is easyer to get out then dark armed i say if ur gonna go after one deck with a mid formate change u should go after a deck thats just started to be played too cause u already know its gonna be at the top i can see it now at the rochester reginals Samuria VS judgement dragon in the game for 1st place dad return will prob be up there but theres only maybe tops 3 people with 3 dad return decks and only one from what ik has crush card so we will just have to see what happens

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ya i have 3 dads and i pulled them too

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And yeah, that's pretty much the same idea I was trying to get across. But, also, Gladiator Beast Gyzarus, especially when used in combination with Elemental Hero Prisma, is one of the best cards ever printed, in my opinion. From Metagame.com:

"Elemental Hero Prisma is going to see a lot of play in Gladiator Beast decks in the near future, creating a play sequence which is absolutely overwhelming. While this play sequence won’t deplete your opponent of all his or her life points, its power wields almost complete control over any deck (especially Dark Armed Return). On turn 1, set a Gladiator Beast. On turn 2, summon Elemental Hero Prisma, sending a copy of Gladiator Beast Bestiari to the graveyard (making Elemental Hero Prisma’s name Gladiator Beast Bestiari, and an operable piece of summoning Gyzarus). You can then special summon Gladiator Beast Gyzarus, destroy two of your opponent’s cards, and attack directly for 2400 damage!

At the end of the battle phase, you use Gyzarus’ effect to trade it for Gladiator Beast Darius and Gladiator Beast Laquari, which allows you to special summon the Bestiari you sent to the graveyard with Prisma’s effect. Now, you have the necessary components to special summon Gladiator Beast Heraklinos from your Fusion deck, and have the ability to stop any spell or trap card your opponent plays! At the end of this turn you have five cards in hand, Gladiator Beast Heraklinos on the field, and have already dealt 2400 damage.

While this seems like a rather large extension of cards to commit to a combination attack, the chances of doing so are fairly strong. Elemental Hero Prisma is searchable from your deck with Reinforcement of the Army or E - Emergency Call, and drawing a Gladiator Beast is a fairly simple thing to do. Those are the only two cards you need in your opening hand to make this powerful combo work. The Gladiator Beast deck doesn’t even have to change much to bend to the application of Gyzarus."

Broken, anyone?

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I agree with the change wholeheartedly. Excellent job UDE. ^_^