Upper Deck Entertainment Forums: Unanswered Threads

Placing extra resources (by accident...?)

1338970 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:36:22 GMT

Recently, it came to my attention that some players place more than one resource on a turn. This is especially helpful to players who are ramping up to play a high-cost card, such as Illidan or Gorehowl. A typical scenario plays out thusly:
~On turn 7, Player A draws, then places a resource right away, quietly and unceremoniously. This player may perform 1-2 other actions (such as attacking or completing a quest), then asks Player B, "Did I place a resource? I don't think I did."

Essentially, in SOME cases such as this (sometimes not, as players ARE human and do make mistakes), Player A is checking to see if Player B is paying attention to what's going on, and is prepared to take advantage of Player B in the event they are uncertain.

Now, for this example, let's say Player B has been tracking the resources on paper and is fully aware that Player A placing an additional resource would violate the rule. Here are a few questions:
1) Is Player B's (written) knowledge of the situation public information, and should be announced in order to prevent Player B from breaking P703 - Misrepresenting Information (detailed below)?
2) Let's say Player B responds to Player A's question in a non-committal fashion, such as "If you think you haven't placed a resource yet, you could do so" (or Player A simply says "You're wrong - you've skipped placing resources"). Player A then places a resource. Assuming the newly faced down resource is indistinguishable from others in the row, what penalty might apply? Normally, I'd say this sounds like P304 - Failure to Maintain Game State (detailed below), but a face-down resource swap could conceivably occur if the game state is simply corrected by asking Player A to put the extra resource back into their hand.
3) For our scenario, is it safe to rule out that Player A is not violating P702 - Game Object Manipulation (detailed below), since he essentially asked permission to do so from Player B?

P304 Failure to Maintain Game State
This infraction occurs when player’s fail to notice a rules violation committed by their teammate or opponent. Since it is the responsibility of all players to maintain the correct game state, this infraction is usually the counter-part to other Game Error type infractions. This penalty is issued to opponents or teammates that could have noticed the error, but did not.
Judges should not issue this penalty to players that had no opportunity to notice or correct Game Error type infractions. This happens when the error occurs with private information or the error is immediately noticed by a player.
The penalty for Failure to Maintain Game State is a Warning for both Rules Levels.
This penalty should never be upgraded, as it would discourage players that discovered the error from calling a judge.

P702 Game Object Manipulation
This infraction occurs when a player manipulates cards, or game mechanics. This includes, but is not limited to, intentionally drawing extra cards, changing the game state, or marking cards.
Manipulating cards or game mechanics destroys tournament integrity, places unnecessary burden on tournament officials, and creates a negative experience for competitors.
The penalty for Game Object Manipulation is a Disqualification for both Rules Levels.

P703 Misrepresenting Information
This infraction occurs when a player intentionally misrepresents public information to their opponent, or any kind of information to tournament officials. This includes, but is not limited to, omitting damage, misrepresenting rules or policies, misrepresenting an event that happened during the game, and lying to tournament officials.
While bluffing is a component of trading card games, players may not lie about public information to their opponents and may never give incorrect information to tournament officials.
The penalty for Misrepresenting Information is a Disqualification for both Rules Levels.

Upper Deck Store not following UDE Rules.

2182283 — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:00:09 GMT

The UD Store in Hunnington Beach needs new people to run it.

They do not in ANY WAY follow 80% of the UDE Rules for WOW TCG.

1) Announced a top 8 then decided not to have it after last round was finished due to Manager wanting to leave.

2) had a 30+ Realm Qualifier which accoarding to UDE polocies requires you to have at least 2 Judges. In this event not only was the head Judge incompetent but one of my friends was having to help out as a player to make calles the head judge was supposed to be making.

3) They never Sell singles nor do they Ever bring in a outside distributer for the events that they hold. This is also a supposed requirement for holding events larger than store level.

4) 4 round tournament for a 42 person sneak peek. This is absolutly rediculess.

I would very much like to have Ry or someone else that has any say over this to please let me know whats going on because i have quite a few people who are both upset and discouraged from ever playing there again due to the lack of rule folowing that is taking place in that store.

I would expect that as the UDE store they would hold them selves in a it higher standard rather than just slack off and break whatever rules they feel like it at the time.

Thanks in advance for any response.

-Mitch

Ranking and Rating

1254022 — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:38:11 GMT

I wish there would be a way to have the MANTIS to display the players Rating and Ranking, the ranking of course from the local player list.

Talking about the rating system, I would like to know if there are any plans to change the current rating method. I mean, the point accumulation is used on many sports, but in modern days, the tendency for ratings is derived from ELO, where it takes into account not only the fact that you won or lost, but rather who was it that you lost or won against. So I would like to know of you plan on changing from the fixed stepping system that basically rewards the player with most wins rather than the player with the most skills.

Rgrds

Small update to Appendix C: WoW TCG Policies

2255697 — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:18:09 GMT

Hello all,

I just wanted to point out the small update added to Appendix C: WoW TCG Policies yesterday. You can find the newest version of these documents here: http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/COMMUNITY/files/28/english/category1039.aspx

The new Badge of Justice rings (Scourgewar Badge 1-4) are currently tournament legal. They are NOT legal for Drums of War Block Constructed.

Hope this clears up any confusion.

Phoenix Games Leicester - Huntik Tournaments

2532512 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:48:30 GMT

On Saturday the 3rd of October the Sneak Peak for the next Huntik set will be taking place at Phoenix Games Leicester.
Entry fee is £10 and for this you will get 5 boosters to build a 25 card deck.
At the end of the tournament every player will get an extra booster and the players in 1st and 2nd place will get additional prizes.
Signing up starts at: 10am with boosters being handed out at 11am.

On Saturday the 10th of October the first Huntik Foundation Qualifier will be taking place at Phoenix Games Leicester.
Just bring your constructed deck and try and get a place in the finals to be held in January.
Signing up starts at 10am, first round at 11am.

Phoenix Games Leicester
51 Church Gate
LE1 3AL
Leicester

Refers to itself? This shouldn't be right.

2959011 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:08:47 GMT

I have searched and seen that many players post one of the same problem that i have encountered.
If there is a card that says either:

When <character name> enters play, <effect>.
When <character name> enters play, <character name> gets <modifier>.
<cost>, <character name> gets <modifier>

and so on...

How come, even though the controller has a card to remove uniqueness from a certain character's name, it refers to itself?

Like Even it you have Identity Crisis and a Dr. Doom in play with either effect listed previously, most likely the second one, and you take out another Dr. Doom, how come the effect will not work? Dr. Doom did came into play!

I have already read rule 201.2e and it doesn't apply. Neither does 201.3 because the effect is not a cost, it is a trigger.

I doubt that 201.2d is the only exception.

Here is the effect that should work regardless of which Dr.Doom enters play
Dr. Doom, Diabolic Genius (MVL-204U, MOR-111U)
Character, 4, Doom, 7/6, Range
When Dr. Doom enters play, you may turn a plot twist you control face down. ¶
Your opponents can't play plot twists from their hands while you control another non-stunned [Doom] character.

Penny Arcade Expo Volunteer Call! (Sep 4-6)

869587 — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:03:58 GMT

Hello everyone,
The Penny Arcade Expo (PAX) is happening September 4th - 6th in Seattle, WA.

Upper Deck is looking for some volunteers for this event. We may be able to offer a shared hotel room with another volunteer, but you have a much better chance if you are local. We have a couple sponsorships available (assistance with hotel) for those that can demo/judge WoW TCG and WoW Minis.

All volunteers for this event will receive a PAX badge that they can use to enter this event. They will also receive an Upper Deck gift kit that has Upper Deck product and World of Warcraft EA cards. Depending on the hours you work, and the quality of the job you do, these may include: Earth Shock, Moonfire, Gift of the Wild, Form of the Serpent, Curse of Exhaustion, Cairne Bloodhoof, Lady Katrana Prestor, Blast Wave, and/or Holy Shock.

If you are interested please send demo@upperdeck.com an email with the subject: Volunteer - PAX. If you apply and are selected, you will be contacted soon before the event with a confirmation email and the schedule. Please include the following information in your email:
* Name
* Date of birth (mm/dd/yyyy)
* UDE number
* WoW TCG RK Certification
* WoW Minis RK Certification
* Player Management Certification
* Specialist Level
* Do you need hotel (yes/no)
* Days you are available to volunteer
* Tests you would like to take at this event
* Email address
* Mailing address (street, city, state, ZIP, country if from outside the United States)
* Phone number
* Locations/events at which you demo
* List of premier conventions you have attended to demo (GenCon, ComiCon, etc.)
* Any special requirements (hotel, food, disabilities, and so on)

Looking for Huntik players

1827923 — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:22:47 GMT

Hi All,
I own a Hobby League Store in central Maryland, near Frederick. I have 3 people that play Huntik and want to get a bi-weekly or monthly tournament going.

My stores name is Thanks For Playing and my site is www.ThanksForPlayingTCG.com. Contact me if you live close and want to play Huntik.

Thanks,

Dave Gress

Rookie Report

3000531 — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 02:37:29 GMT

Hi,dude.I am Lane.I just registered a few mins ago. Certainly,there are lots of stuff which I are learning.

Okay,this is rookie report.Please do me a favor when I'm in the trouble.Thanks a lot.

My Evil Deck - Diet Coke of Evil

2964358 — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:54:29 GMT

Just one calorie... not evil enough?

Not yet anyway. Been playing about a week or so and competed in my local regionals - made top 8 with a different deck, took it home and tried to break it apart and build something a little better.

Here's what I've come up with - really appreciate any thoughts.

Majors:

3x Dominator
3x Gar-Ghoul
1x Shauna and Wind
2x Grier, Organization Commander
1x Fireblade
1x Sunhawk

First up, I want to cut one sunhawk and probably one garghoul for one more fireblade and an extra Shauna and Wind. More or less I want fatties that can sweep a board (gar-ghoul + strikemode is a very nasty trick) and the other guys support the recursion engine. Grier is in because he's just awsome with the Dark Pharoah...

Minors:

3x Dark Pharoah, Sand Snake
3x Redcap
3x Crashion
2x Metzi
2x Ice Creature
2x Invisible Knight

The core of the deck is Crashion/Invisible Knight/Fireblade - Ice Creature also has a nice synergy there too. Crash/Invis knight on their own really get the cards flying - if I had a third Invis Knight, I'd play him probably in lieu of the third redcap. Bouncing Grier sometimes works nicely too for extra tokens.

Importantly, anyone other than Ice Creature can cut down Caliban with Strikemode - while not a great trade, still better than it might be (and a straight 2 for 2 swap if I get him after one round).

Combat Actions:

2x Ferocity
2x Sneaky Retreat
2x Strikemode

I tried Darkvoids, but I just didn't like them - most of the time Strikemode was more useful for wiping the board: I get more 2 for 1s with Strikemode. Sneaky Retreat is just pure awesome in this deck.

Exhaust Actions:

3x Flashbulb
2x Raypulse
1x Ace in the Hole

Free Actions:

2x Ambush

I've tried a couple different things here like Darkwave and Acidheart, but I kept finding myself pitching them. Raypulse has been a real winner, setting up my fatties for crushing blockers - pull a 2nd/third guy in and scoop em all up.

The deck definitely plays with attrition in mind - ideally you want to trade your units to clean your opponent's board and recur your units with fireblade to ensure you have not only the pieces you need to trade well, but also to ensure you have a constant stream of minors.

One change I'll definitely make, until I can get a hold of a 2nd Shauna and Wind, will be adding in an Amulet of Behemoth and Behemoth - not ideal, but Behemoth is very fat and should be able to trade for 2-3 cards.

As far as missions go, I'm really not sure what I really want to go with. The deck isn't super mobile, so things like Secrets of Ayers Rock are out; it works best with some set up time because cards like Crashion/Invisible Knight fix your hand.

Cheers!

UK National Championship

1771105 — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:37:30 GMT

The National Championship will be held on the 15th and 16th August at:

The National Motorcycle Museum
Coventry Road
Bickenhill
Solihull
West Midlands
B92 0EJ

Good transport links, plenty of parking and hotels all nearby as it's by the NEC/Birmingham Airport complex

East Midlands UK Regionals Details

2532512 — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:36:58 GMT

Check this image: http://www.huntiktcg.co.uk/images/events/regionalchamps0907/PGregionals_large.jpg

For details of the Huntik Regionals on Saturday the 18th of June 2009.

Any questions, then just post them and I'll do my best to answer them fast.

Standings with drops

1438908 — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:59:59 GMT

Hi,
I just found out today, that Mantis doesnt allow me to display standings with dropped players. The only way to find that out is by printing the standings, which unfortunately I wasnt able to do (no printer). Is there any other way to find out standings with drops? I know I can see it on the web after I upload results, but thats too late.

Thanks

JUNE 2009 WOW MINIS RULES UPDATE!

855144 — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:07:26 GMT

Hello world,

The following documents have been updated:

1) WoW Minis Comprehensive Rules updated to v1.05. [doc] [pdf] [discuss]

2) WoW Minis Official Card Reference (2009 06 12). [doc] [pdf] [discuss]

Enjoy!
Ed.

JUNE 2009 MEGA-UPDATE!

855144 — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:37:26 GMT

Hello world,

The following documents have been published/updated:

1) Comprehensive Rules updated to v3.2. [doc] [pdf] [discuss]

2) Fields of Honor FAQ. [doc] [pdf] [discuss]

Enjoy!
Ed.

DMF Boston Judge call!

966558 — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:29:21 GMT

This goes out to all the World of Warcraft TCG/Minis enthusiasts that are looking to help out with Darkmoon Faire: Boston. Here are the specifics of what we are looking for.

Judges

8 World of Warcraft TCG Judges
6 World of Warcraft Minis Judges

Volunteers

8 total volunteers

I'm going to be straight with you, it's a ton of work. On your feet for a lot of the days and hustling to get tournaments started isn't easy. The good news is that we are more than willing to make it worth your while. Each Judge/Volunteer with start out with the basic gift kit with the following EAs:

Earth Shock
Moonfire
Gift of the Wild
Form of the Serpent
Curse of Exhaustion
Cairne Bloodhoof
Three new EAs for 2009
In addition to these new promos, which are only available prior to the 2009 Continental Championships, we will be making sure that each Judge/Volunteer walks out the door loaded down with product. We have a couple sponsorships available (assistance with hotel/travel) for those that can judge/demo WoW TCG and WoW Minis. If this sounds like something that you are interested in, here is the information that you need.

Volunteer (send this info to demo@upperdeck.com)

* Name
* Date of birth (mm/dd/yyyy)
* UDE number
* Days you are available to volunteer
* Tests you would like to take at this event, if any.
* Email address
* Locations you regularly demo

Judge (send this info to judge@upperdeck.com)

* Name
* Date of birth (mm/dd/yyyy)
* UDE number
* Do you need hotel (yes/no)
* World of Warcraft TCG rules certification
* World of Warcraft Minis rules certification
* Player Management certification
* Days you are available to judge
* Tests you would like to take at this event
* Email address
* Mailing address (street, city, state, ZIP, country if from outside the United States)
* Phone number
* Events you regularly judge
* List of premier events you have judged, if any (Regionals, Darkmoon Faires, Nationals)
* List of premier events you have judged for other games
* Any special requirements (hotel, flight, food, disabilities, and so on)

I promise that this is going to be blast. Tell you what, in addition to all of this, Upper Deck will also take you out for dinner Saturday night!

See you in Boston!

MANTIS on Ubuntu (or other Linux) solution!

2797338 — Fri, 29 May 2009 14:27:11 GMT

Howdy folks, just got my WoWTCG RK, TO, and Specialist certs this week, and as I'm a Linux user I was having some trouble getting MANTIS to run (Wine won't run it, even with every workaround I could find). I very much wanted to have it running (since, you know, it's impossible to sanction events without it) and this is what I finally ended up doing:

Download Sun VirtualBox from here and install it.
Install a copy of Windows XP on a VirtualBox Guest machine.
Install the .NET framework 1.1 from here on your VirtualBox Guest machine.
Install and run MANTIS using VirtualBox.

This works more or less perfectly, with the drawback that you will need a Windows XP CD and corresponding Windows XP CD-key to use this solution. I'm still working on a way to get MANTIS running under just Wine; I'll keep you all posted.

Evil! Sencond place in Store Champs 09 fixes please?

2829022 — Sun, 24 May 2009 20:04:32 GMT

I entered my local hobby store championships and came second place today, admitted I made a couple of VERY silly mistakes (not reading cards properly etc) but glad I did so well for my first constructed touniment.

Major Heroes

3 Slitherfang, Serpent from the Nile
3 NighLurker, Creeper in the shadow
2 Fireblade, Friend in the shadows
2 Brahe, Lumbering Hulk
1 Rassimov, Dangerous mind

Minor Heroes

3 Derenzar, Unruly Titan
2 Gwain, Forest Warrior
2 Jeweled Colossus, Heart of stone
3 Akmen Meo, Spirit guide
3 Metzi, Moon Titan
2 Strix, Swarm Fighter

Actions

3 Slipstream
3 Get Back To Work
3 Flashbulb
2 Ace In the Hole
3 Augerfrost

Missions

There was a limit of two missions because that's all most people had

Corral The Bulls (this deck works very well with this mission
Take The Bigfoot Captive

I do want to add ofcourse, The professor, Acidhearts and a Breaker
this is just a matter of getting them

what do you suggest?

Update to Minis Comp Rules, Official Card Rerence and FAQ!

966558 — Thu, 14 May 2009 15:44:59 GMT

The WoW Minis documents have been updated!

You can find the relevant posts and download links in the following threads:

Official Card Reference:
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/community/forums/thread/1641855.aspx

Frequently Asked Questions (for Spoils of War):
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/community/forums/thread/1751743.aspx

Comprehensive Rules:
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/wow/community/forums/thread/1657447.aspx

no characters for galactus

2138231 — Mon, 11 May 2009 01:52:54 GMT

if there are no characters on galactuses side of the field and the planet says that the allies must stun a character and there’s no character to stun how gets the planet? the way i see it galactus dose becuse the allise could not fofill the objective

StunDeck

2792272 — Tue, 05 May 2009 13:11:17 GMT

Stundeck [40]

Major Hero

3x The Professor, Leader of the organization
2x Ymir, Frost giant
1x Brahe, Lumbering hulk
1x Gar-Ghoul, Gothic terror
1x Breaker, Grier's titan

Minor Hero [15]

3x Redcap, Claws and teeth
3x Ice creature, Minion of ymir
3x Jeweled Colossus, Hearth of stone
3x Invisible Knight, Fearless and arrogant
3x Derenzar, Unruly titan

Free actions [7]

2x Power drain
2x Thundercut
2x Outsourcing
1x Get back to work

Exhaust action [10]

3x Flashbulb
3x Ace in the hole
2x Acidheart
2x Raypulse

Any fixes?

Prophet Velen and Totems

2160844 — Sun, 03 May 2009 15:13:24 GMT

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/WOW/COMMUNITY/forums/thread/1741739.aspx

We need confirmation of whether Prophet Velen's ability triggers off of totems. Right now the wording suggests it does, however some testing seems to indicate that if it would, that would make the figure overpowered, so we are wondering if this interaction was intentional and whether it will be errata'd out. Realms is very soon and Spoils of War will be legal there, so people are anxious for a quick answer.

Needed Card

2642390 — Sat, 02 May 2009 03:06:21 GMT

I need card number 085 Jeweled Colossus I need 2 to complete my first deck if anyone has extra plz let me know

Can I make broken events go away?

1494666 — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:41:01 GMT

There were a couple of events that I ran in which a player dropped during the event. Say round 3 player x dropped. The tournament completes out, finals are played. However, before the event was closed and submitted the player was clicked and re-enrolled (by accident I didn't mean to). This froze up the program. Every time the event is selected now it freezes mantis and I have to force it closed and restart it...

Is there a way to take these events out of the drop list so that can't happen any more?

Also when/how can I get mantis to update it's document section? (Data upload doesn't work for this)

Is there a way to permanently delete a local player from my database? (Un-checking local player doesn't do the trick)

Windows XP Pro SP3 fully up to date
MANTIS 3.0.31

WoW Minis CR and Policy document updates!

966558 — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:55:09 GMT

For those that may have missed the post in the other Minis Forums, the Minis Comp Rules have been updated.

You can read about the changes here.

The Minis Appendix D Policy document was also updated as well.
You can download the latest copy from here.

Changes include updates to section D-18 and section D-19.

The most notable change is the clarification that a player does not have to choose 2 ABCs for their character if they do not wish. They may choose up to 2.

Also, there is a new check for tiebreakers during End of Match Procedures. It is the final check to apply:

"A player or team wins the match if he or she is closer in victory points to the total number of victory points that he or she needs to normally win.

If both players or both teams are an equal number of victory points away from a win, each character on or adjacent to a Victory Point location scores 1 additional point for its party. Totals are again compared to see who is closer to the total number of victory points that they need to normally win. The person or team closer to the victory point total needed for their party is the winner. In the case of one or both players or teams exceeding the number of victory points that they need to normally win, the person or team exceeding by more victory points is the winner.

If both totals are either equal distance away from their victory point totals, or are both over the victory point totals by the same amount, the player or team whose party costs the most honor is the winner of the game.

If both parties cost the same amount of honor, players tally damage on all characters they control with honor 1 or greater. The side that is has the most damage on their characters loses. It's possible that both players have equal amount of damage on their party. In this case, play continues until a damage change causes damage totals not to be equal. The player with the most damage on their characters loses."

Enjoy!