First of all this is experimental (played first time tonight) and I'm not sure it's an improvement - what you're really changing is switching out Blood Knight Kyria/Cannibalise for Gromble The Apt, that's about the main impact switching from red to blue.  Other changes in the deck could be made within a classic red Jonas deck.

GAINED
+ Ressa's flip (3 -> opponent sacrifices an equipment)
+ Gromble The Apt
+ Pappy Ironbane

LOST
- Blood Knight Kyria
- Cannibalise
- Cromarius Blackfist

I'm quite excited about the potential turbo that Gromble gives you (turn 3 Detect Traps, for instance) and his Find Treasure ability gives you a free graveyard filler so he fits the deck well even if the opponent immediately spends a turn to kill him.  But there's no doubting that losing both Kyria and Cannibalise (looks Jonas players still typically run one or both of these) gives you a massive hole against aggressive decks (I was looking at potential SB cards to help recover my health and there didn't seem to be much available (no Cinnamon Roll for the Rogues!).

Hero: Ressa The Leper Gnome

4 Gromble The Apt
2 Pappy Ironbane

4 Deathblow
3 Purloin
4 Eviscerate
3 Thud
3 Kidney Strike
3 Detect Traps
3 Carnage
4 Surge of Adrenaline
4 Overkill

3 Black Amnesty (my choice over Felsteel Whisper Knives)
3 Vengeful Gladiator's Vestments

2 Illidan Stormrage

3 Darkmoon Faire
4 The Ring of Blood: The Warmaul Champion
4 Forces of Jaedenar
4 A Question of Gluttony

SIDE:
1 Purloin
1 Detect Traps
3 Kulvo Jadefist (random fat guy to stop beatings)
3 Woodsie Leafsong
1 Kael'Thas Sunstrider
1 Lady Vashj

Somewhere in here I can sort of see the beginning of an aggro Overkill deck, using Glous instead of Gromble and then Adam/Dimzer/EotS to replace controlling elements like Black Amnesty, Vestments, Illidan, and Darkmoon Faire.  Then cards like Carnage and Overkill switch from defensive sweepers to removing protectors and dealing damage.

-4 Gromble
-2 Pappy
-3 Amnesty
-3 Vestments
-1 Surge of Adrenaline
-4 Eviscerate
-2 Illidan
-3 Darkmoon Faire
-1 RoB: Warmaul Champion
(-23)

+4 Marksman Glous
+2 Bladehands
+4 Adam
+3 Woodsie
+3 Dimzer
+4 Eye of the Storm
+3 Gut Shot
(+23)

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Looks interesting - no healing can make problems against agro - maybe First Reponder Alaresa instead of Kulvo

I don't know if Gromble is enough reason to go blue. Sure a turn 3 Detect Traps could be a blowout against some decks some of the time, and Find Treasure is nice but...Cromarius and Kyria?
Cromarius is Jonas' only out against abilities, and I don't know if Pappy quite compares, sitting at 7 cost.
If you're interested in resource acceleration, Rogue has Brigands...?

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I looked at the First Responder and thought people would laugh at me for playing her - she's a more direct replacement for Kyria but I think she's just way way way too slow at healing and her 1ATK isn't enough of a deterrent to stop the opponent simply ploughing through her.  I think I'd take Kordoc Greybeard over First Responder if I was simply trying to mitigate damage rather than remove attackers - vs some decks a 1/5 protector and -3ATK combined in one 3-drop can be hard to punch through.

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Well, Pappy could be Woodsie Leafsong or Talisman of the Alliance if cost becomes the issue.  The only reason it isn't Talisman is that I'm running Amnesty (where most Jonas decks run throwing knives you can pull back to hand).  In the absence of Black Amnesty those would probably become Talisman of the Alliance.

Brigand's doesn't excite me much - it accelerates me to the kill, but I'm more interesting in being able to do more turns 2-5.  I guess the gamble is that by increasing the pace of your game you don't fall behind on tempo so much and so need the healing less.  Like I said - it's a big fat experiment.


Oh, an aside.  How random is the Goblin Rocket Launcher?

Ressa is an engineer so at 4 could drop that bad boy and start taking potshots.  The average cost of cards is 2.8 but that's weighted heavily to the top end because of Illidan/Pappy/Vestments)  Roughly a third of my deck does 0 or 1 pts, a third of my deck does 2 pts, and a third of my deck does 4 or more.

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i think u would do better by removing illidan and try to deck build a Ressa combo dmg deck. im a Jonas playe and kyria can save ur live just too many times, using 2 gouges or 2 abilities (most of the times u have the resources cus u gota save kyria for when u need her) can kinda reset ur hp dmgup to a lot, that is her only function if she heal 8 than im happy with her and she can die xD.

Aside from that Pappy is really good, yah u lose the healing but this is a deck that can get sommewhere, nice call.

Also maybe black amnesty can defend u against 1 ally since u can run away from it when it atks u. But... the thing about the knives is that it gives ur hero long range so it can atk and wont take dmg back, a friend use em with devilsaur leggings and its a pretty nice combo. As for ma own Jonas i have remove the knives for Blackout truncheon, 4 gouge 4 thuds 4 blackout is a really good way to go, and a nightmare for solo decks.

P.S: i dont feel too good about the rocket launcher u can test it anyways, btw ur deck is a good idea and alternative good luck with it and u can totally make it better, post ur changes and results of ur testing so we can all check the power of ressa and maybe help u out more see ya

Grudum might help.  He's a 1 cost 1/2 protector with find treasure.  He's cheap as can be, saves you from an attack or two, and fills your graveyard.

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I looked at the First Responder and thought people would laugh at me for playing her - she's a more direct replacement for Kyria but I think she's just way way way too slow at healing and her 1ATK isn't enough of a deterrent to stop the opponent simply ploughing through her.  I think I'd take Kordoc Greybeard over First Responder if I was simply trying to mitigate damage rather than remove attackers - vs some decks a 1/5 protector and -3ATK combined in one 3-drop can be hard to punch through.

@matsy
Well, Pappy could be Woodsie Leafsong or Talisman of the Alliance if cost becomes the issue.  The only reason it isn't Talisman is that I'm running Amnesty (where most Jonas decks run throwing knives you can pull back to hand).  In the absence of Black Amnesty those would probably become Talisman of the Alliance.

Brigand's doesn't excite me much - it accelerates me to the kill, but I'm more interesting in being able to do more turns 2-5.  I guess the gamble is that by increasing the pace of your game you don't fall behind on tempo so much and so need the healing less.  Like I said - it's a big fat experiment.


Oh, an aside.  How random is the Goblin Rocket Launcher?

Ressa is an engineer so at 4 could drop that bad boy and start taking potshots.  The average cost of cards is 2.8 but that's weighted heavily to the top end because of Illidan/Pappy/Vestments)  Roughly a third of my deck does 0 or 1 pts, a third of my deck does 2 pts, and a third of my deck does 4 or more.

If you dont like first responder what about Marnie Moonlight?

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post ur changes and results of ur testing so we can all check the power of ressa and maybe help u out more see ya

I played it last night and the results are pretty favorable.  It was hardly extensive gauntlet testing, but I played against three actual decks (Daspien, Kileanna, and a new rush deck that I don't want to spoil before Realms but is FAST). 

The rush deck just blew me out.  Pretty consistently dead turn 5/6 and nothing I did really mattered.  We worked out that playing Cannibalise and Kyria wouldn't really have changed the matchup much because they're too slow, and the one game that I had a chance of winning was down to Gromble accelerating me to a turn 4 Overkill for 4. Unluckily for me he was able to Dr Boom for the one card in his deck that would help in that situation, and it was GG.  We actually played a few games after I SBed in 7 cards and I was still getting blown out so I think it's just about unwinnable for me.

Against the rush deck, in the game I nearly won my plays were...

Purloin
Deathblow your guy, complete Forces of Jaedenar
Gromble, Eviscerate your guy
Overkill for 4

And I lost on the next turn.  That rush deck is MENTAL.


In the other matches the deck performed well, though, and most importantly it performed well because it was Ressa not Jonas.  Against Daspien the flip of Ressa was useful in postponing early damage, then a single Thud got me up to Pappy territory by the time he was attacking again.  By the time he'd then cleared out Pappy a few turns later I was making Vestments and Illidan.  Both Gromble and Pappy were improvements here - I was faster in developing my game, and Pappy wrecked his board where Cromarius would have been filler.

Against the Warlock I lost the first game because I misused my flip.  He played Zhar'Dun (or whatever) the staff that deal 3 and I didn't immediately flip it off even though I had resources open.  I don't know what I was waiting for - I'd seen Voidfire Wand in his hand but Ressa's flip was only ever going to get his worst equipment so I should have just used it.  As the game wore on as an attritional match of draw/discard and got into late game he got Felshroud down, bounced Pappy before EOT, and was able to beat me with the abilities I'd let him remove from the game with the staff, and he Voidfire locked me 1 card away from playing Illidan.  I won the next three games though, and they all went very similar ways - I nailed his hand early (turn 3 Detect Traps 2 out of 3, the third I Kidney Shotted his resources start of his turn 4 so he couldnt play then Overkilled his hand away turn 4), he recovered, I nailed it again and he was done.  Being able to Deathblow/Eviscerate my own guys to prevent him drawing through Backlash was key, as was Thud to tie Backlash down for two turns.  Gromble wasn't too hot because it gave him a target to walk into with Backlash but he was still valuable in the early game and I just tended to need to Eviscerate him away at some point turns 5-7 when my opponent got Backlash going, but Pappy was extremely good in this matchup.  Between Ressa's flip and Pappy Ironbane I was much more able to control the Warlock deck than I would have been as Jonas.

This deck definitely warrants further testing - it seems a perfectly good option to Jonas, and better in some matchups.  The deck I lost to I would have lost to had I been Jonas, and in the two I won the Alliance cards were definitely stronger than the Horde cards I would have been playing in Jonas.


Worst card I played with was Black Amnesty.  It was almost good in the matchup vs rush but in the end simply too slow.  But we went over it and there's probably nothing available to Rogue in either Horde or Alliance that would help turn that matchup in my favor so I'm not going to drop Amnesty just on the basis of that result.  However has made me reconsider the Felsteel Knives.  They'd have been a little more useful vs the rush deck... wouldn't have turned a loss into a win, but would definitely have been better.  I just feel that without Amnesty I'm  trousers-down to any big ally they play as I've no Hateful Strikes, and without them I've no immediate answer to anything too big to Carnage/Overkill.

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I was really impressed with this deck last night.

As you pointed out against my daspian deck the pappy and the thud is what lost me it as i cant afford the tempo loss when you have both the vestments and illidan in your deck.

Against warlock the game i saw when you did detect traps on 3 and pretty much emptyied his had was very good, and i very much like the deck because using gromble for the both the filter and the extra resource can just make the threats that wouldnt normaly be an issue a much bigger issue. Especially as the guy who played the warlock then ripped a useless eye on killrog off the top and just laughed.

The super fast rush deck I think was always going to be hard as we have developed the list to make it very hard to beat although it still gets beaten by desecrator in lammys hands but thats not important.

All in all I like the deck and hope to see it again.

Have you tried out Shadow Tactics with this deck? Shadow tacs + gromble goes for some nifty acceleration... ;)

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I topped a spec saf at nats with a ressa deck and her flip is what u need because alot of decks side in equipment  like band of vile aggression and freezing band plus you should be favored in the mirror. Another thing to consider is you can play dimzer in this deck which can give you a midgame threat while making your grombles not so dead late game.

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