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Last post 10-08-2008, 10:19 AM by Manu-fan. 16 replies.
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  •  10-07-2008, 10:11 AM 1469211

    Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    Hero: Graccus

    Quests: 13

    It's a Secret to Everybody x2

    Zapped Giants x3

    corki's ransom x4

    biggame hunter

    blueleaf tubers

    chasing a-me

    tabards of the illidari

     

    Abilites:16

    Consecration x2

    Avenger's Sheild x2

    Hammer Of Justice x4

    Holy Sheild x4

    touched by light

    Sheild or weild 

    ret aura

    blessing of protection

     

    Equipment: 10

    Treusilver Breastplate x4

    Hammer of the Naaru

    Vindicator's brand

    Edgemaster's Handguard's

    Draconian Deflector

    Medallion of the Lightbringer

    Lion heart Helm

     

    Allies: 28

    King Magni Bronzebeard x2

    Grint Sundershot x2

    Maxum Ironbrew x2

    Korthas Greybeard x4

    Parvikx4

    Master Marksmen McGee

    King Mukla

    Vindicator Kentho

    Treesong

    Moira darkheart

    Melgwy Pingzot

    Galway Steamwhistle

    Freya Lightsworn

    Wimbly tinerton

    First Responder Avaressa

    Thief Catcher Norun

    Ironforge Guards

     

    In Conclusion, this leaves me with 67 cards, and at a loss which ones to take out, they all seem like Solid cards...

    Thank you all for your reply's thus far.


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 10:13 AM 1469217 in reply to 1469211

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    Please give me constructive critizism, i can take it, i know i am new to this :) I want to become a good player.
    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 10:43 AM 1469247 in reply to 1469217

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    10quest is too less for any deck,try to make it 14-18

    declare a main theme for your deck,what is the winning condition with your deck?

    there're serveral type of theme such as

    beatdown/aggro/rush deck

    control deck

    combo deck

    ally-based?solo deck?

    think about them,get those card what affiliate with your deck theme

     

  •  10-07-2008, 11:09 AM 1469291 in reply to 1469247

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    2037973:

    10quest is too less for any deck,try to make it 14-18

    declare a main theme for your deck,what is the winning condition with your deck?

    there're serveral type of theme such as

    beatdown/aggro/rush deck

    control deck

    combo deck

    ally-based?solo deck?

    think about them,get those card what affiliate with your deck theme

     

     

    Thank you for your reply.

    1. The quests that i have are they good ones? which ones should i get more of?

    2. Well from what i take from reading numerous threads is, Rush-is quick kills, Beat down- taking them down over time and Aggro is (i am not sure of), am i right on any of those?

    3.Whats the difference between control deck and combo deck?

    4. Solo or allied based. I would like a deck where i have means to protect my hero for best survivabilty there is, but not gimp on crushing the opponent.

     

    Overall i would like a deck that is: wear the opponent down over time, have great survivability and have a great finisher.

    Remember, i am learning the game so i need a deck that is friendly to that and I wont get crushed in the first 2 or 3 turns...cant learn that way can you?

     


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 11:37 AM 1469319 in reply to 1469211

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    Ok, from the looks of things you are a new player with a limited card base.  Most decks have the following things in common:

    1. 10-14 quests ( you can use anything as a resource, so there isnt as much of a need as in magic)

    2.  Any card that you want to see reliably you want to have 3-4 in the deck.  If it costs more than 6
          or 7 resources, you can cut it down to 2.  This adds to the ability of ""seeing"" the cards when
            you want them so theat you can play them.

    3.  At least 1 win condition.  A lot of decks also use an alternate win condition to back it up just
           in case that original one gets blasted.

    That being said, if you look at your decklist, you many 1 of's (cards that the deck contains only 1 of).  If you find the better cards for your strategy, which seems to be rush (many smaller allies curving to larger ones later) and make them easier to find during play by putting multiple copies in the deck, you will win more.  With 2 starter decks of dark portal and/or Hero's of Azeroth, you might want to look into buying a few more packs of newer cards such as Servants of the Betrayer, Hunt for Illidan, and March of the Legion. IAllthough it does look like you have been buying a few.   If you go to this website... www.wowtcgdb.com  you can see almost every card made or about to be made.  That way you can find what cards you think will be the best to make your strategy work.  You can go to ebay or trade locally for the more rare cards that are harder to pull in packs. If you look through this area (strategy and decklists) on the website you can look to see how the other paladins are doing it, and maybe see how they are supposed to work.  Have fun and good luck!!


    mmmmmm.. that weapon is chock full of Shamany goodness... Finally!! a male enhancement......................... shaman!!!!
  •  10-07-2008, 12:19 PM 1469344 in reply to 1469319

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    1635540:

    Ok, from the looks of things you are a new player with a limited card base.  Most decks have the following things in common:

    1. 10-14 quests ( you can use anything as a resource, so there isnt as much of a need as in magic)

    2.  Any card that you want to see reliably you want to have 3-4 in the deck.  If it costs more than 6
          or 7 resources, you can cut it down to 2.  This adds to the ability of ""seeing"" the cards when
            you want them so theat you can play them.

    3.  At least 1 win condition.  A lot of decks also use an alternate win condition to back it up just
           in case that original one gets blasted.

    That being said, if you look at your decklist, you many 1 of's (cards that the deck contains only 1 of).  If you find the better cards for your strategy, which seems to be rush (many smaller allies curving to larger ones later) and make them easier to find during play by putting multiple copies in the deck, you will win more.  With 2 starter decks of dark portal and/or Hero's of Azeroth, you might want to look into buying a few more packs of newer cards such as Servants of the Betrayer, Hunt for Illidan, and March of the Legion. IAllthough it does look like you have been buying a few.   If you go to this website... www.wowtcgdb.com  you can see almost every card made or about to be made.  That way you can find what cards you think will be the best to make your strategy work.  You can go to ebay or trade locally for the more rare cards that are harder to pull in packs. If you look through this area (strategy and decklists) on the website you can look to see how the other paladins are doing it, and maybe see how they are supposed to work.  Have fun and good luck!!

    Thank you for you reply.

    Updated:  I PURCHASED some cards, Please refer to the deck list again for further reply's


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 1:34 PM 1469443 in reply to 1469344

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    seems kinda jank but its ok for starts. My best advise is to play it alot and see what works. If you are drawing Card X and wish it was Card Z, drop it and add another Card Z and vise versa. Get a fun solid deck and then start developing tech and win conditions and whatnot
    Evilicious
    70 Blood Elf Hunter

    Hoofinstien
    70 Tauren Shaman

    Scilla Server
  •  10-07-2008, 1:59 PM 1469486 in reply to 1469443

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    2002549:
    seems kinda jank

    Does that mean its a common deck? or boring deck?

    So having 67 cards isnt a problem? i thought a deck had to be only 60 cards.


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 2:09 PM 1469508 in reply to 1469486

    Re: Rate my Deck( not totally Finished)

    It should be only 60, but legally any number greater than 60 is okay.

    Isgee is, by definition, correct.
    -Vash, VSRealms
  •  10-07-2008, 2:19 PM 1469529 in reply to 1469211

    Re: Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    Let's start with Quests.

    Big Game Hunter + Zapped Giants in this deck doesn't look right. Your deck is Ally rich, so you would strike out with these quests more than not.

    If you want to go with that type of Quest, go with Kibler's Exotic Pets. But you might not really want to run those, because they'd put your equipment and abilities at the bottom.

    A great utility quest that would work perfectly in here is Information Gathering. Run 4 x Information Gathering.

    With lots of allies, maybe go to 3 x Tabards of the Illidari.

    Chasing-a-me is fine if you're going to run some big allies. Up this to 2 or 3.

    If you are going to run some big allies (King Magni etc.) then you may want to dig for them in your deck. The Missing Diplomat is what you need. Maybe drop It's a Secret for these

    So, you might run something like:

    Corkis x 4
    Info Gathering x 4
    Tabards x 3
    Chasing-A-Me x 2
    Missing Diplomat x 2

    There's a solid 15 quests for you.

    Cheers.

    Man Utd to retain the Premiership!!
    Latest result: Aston Villa 0 Man Utd 0 (better than Arsenal!!!)
    My most recent High Level result: 3-4 DMF Anaheim
    Level 1 TCG AND Minis Rules
  •  10-07-2008, 2:40 PM 1469560 in reply to 1469529

    Re: Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    1189990:
    Let's start with Quests.

    Big Game Hunter + Zapped Giants in this deck doesn't look right. Your deck is Ally rich, so you would strike out with these quests more than not.

    If you want to go with that type of Quest, go with Kibler's Exotic Pets. But you might not really want to run those, because they'd put your equipment and abilities at the bottom.

    A great utility quest that would work perfectly in here is Information Gathering. Run 4 x Information Gathering.

    With lots of allies, maybe go to 3 x Tabards of the Illidari.

    Chasing-a-me is fine if you're going to run some big allies. Up this to 2 or 3.

    If you are going to run some big allies (King Magni etc.) then you may want to dig for them in your deck. The Missing Diplomat is what you need. Maybe drop It's a Secret for these

    So, you might run something like:

    Corkis x 4
    Info Gathering x 4
    Tabards x 3
    Chasing-A-Me x 2
    Missing Diplomat x 2

    There's a solid 15 quests for you.

    Cheers.

     

    Thank you so much, this was the type of reply i was looking for. I totally see why you would choose those and it does look solid.

    As for the rest of the deck, seems good?


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 2:43 PM 1469566 in reply to 1469211

    Re: Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    It looks like you are about halfway towards a good deck..

    cards like avengers shield, hammer of naru, holy shield, hammer of justice, etc are all great...

    Cards like galway steamwhistle, freeya lightsworn, truesilver breastplate etc are not very good

    Best thing I can suggest to you, is click on the "event coverage" section of the main website, and take a look at some of the decks that are winning major tournaments...

    Chances are, if they are playing a card, its a good card.... we can worry about synergy later.


    Merciless Gladiator Jedion
    Chris "Jedion" Reilkoff
    Top 8 DMF Seattle
    Top 8 Day 1 North America Continental Championships
  •  10-07-2008, 3:46 PM 1469713 in reply to 1469566

    Re: Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    Now let's move on to equipment:

    Treusilver Breastplate x4
    Hammer of the Naaru
    Vindicator's brand
    Edgemaster's Handguard's
    Draconian Deflector
    Medallion of the Lightbringer
    Lion heart Helm

    Truesilver Breastplate costs 6. Is it the key card for the deck? How many times will your hero be dealing damage? Cut the number down to 1 or 2.

    Hammer of the Naaru - a really good weapon. You've got it, so use it.

    Vindicator's Brand - Not a fan of just 1 in a deck. If you have more, put them in. If not, maybe choose some other lower cost utility weapon. If you're on a low budget and have limited card pool, maybe you've got a few Krol Blades you could use here.

    Edgemaster's Handguards. Why? Any weapons you're running cost at most 1 to strike.

    Draconian Deflector. A good card.

    Mediallion of the Lightbringer  - Presumably that's 'Lightbearer', right? How many Inspire Allys are you running? This can be cut unless you're running plently of them.

    Consider Borak's Belt of Bravery. That's a good card that can fit in here. Run a couple.

    No other specific suggestions. Just run a few good equipment, and then try to run a splash of different armor that has different requirements (Legs, Waist, Chest, off-hand etc.).

    I presume you don't have other High End Paladin weapons such as Wraith Scythe, Thunderfury etc.

    Cheers.

    Man Utd to retain the Premiership!!
    Latest result: Aston Villa 0 Man Utd 0 (better than Arsenal!!!)
    My most recent High Level result: 3-4 DMF Anaheim
    Level 1 TCG AND Minis Rules
  •  10-07-2008, 4:16 PM 1469777 in reply to 1469713

    Re: Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    OK.

    Truesilver Breastplate costs 6. Is it the key card for the deck? How many times will your hero be dealing damage? Cut the number down to 1 or 2.

    Done.

    Mediallion of the Lightbringer  - Presumably that's 'Lightbearer', right? How many Inspire Allys are you running? This can be cut unless you're running plently of them

    Yes,Lightbearer,lol.  I looked over my allies and from what  see is thee are no Inspire ally's. The card was been cut.

    Edgemaster's Handguards. Why? Any weapons you're running cost at most 1 to strike
    so has Edgemaster's.

    Removed

    I presume you don't have other High End Paladin weapons such as Wraith Scythe, Thunderfury etc

    I was looking at the Wraith Scythe and the thunderfury, i am sure i can do those, in the next week or so, no problem.

    Hammer of the Naaru - a really good weapon. You've got it, so use it

    Even with a cost of 8? or for one of those times where a good finisher is needed?

     

    What about my lionheart's helm?

     

    How does these sound:

    Death bringer x2 (low cost utility weapon)

    Mason's Fraternity Ring

    Stronghold Gauntlet's, MAYBE 2?

    possibly a flame wrath?

     

     

     


     


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
  •  10-07-2008, 4:59 PM 1469917 in reply to 1469777

    Re: Rate my Deck( REVISED)

    well i was looking at the events and the closest to me in the realm qualifier is scarsdale and brooklyn.

    From what u take my deck wouldnt be able to do it cause my hero is from HoA, am i right?

     

    best date i see for me would be in Nov. If my deck could work, i would like to get it done way before that so i can playa few games some where and see how i do.

     

    any thoughts?


    Mxyus-Lvl 70 Survival Hunter

    Kaynenn-Lvl 70 Prot Paladin

    Alleria Server
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