TCG Strategy & Decklists

Lionar - after Scougewar

1370610 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:00:50 GMT

Wandering would it be worth playing it like this - can be some other wheapon Jirok, Gorehowl, Thunderfury

Lionar
Allies 33
4 Kazamon Steelskin
3 Cromarius Blackfist
2 Rehgar Earthfury
3 Bonechewer Behemoth

2 Garrosh Hellscream
4 Offender Gora
4 Munkin Blackfist
4 Furious Kalla
3 Kagella Shadowmark
4 Bloodsoul

Equipment: 3

3 Felsteel Reaper

Abilities 11

2 Reconstruct
3 Sudden Death
3 Bloody Ritual
3 Finishing Shout
Resources 14
4 Orgrimmar
4 Bolstering Our Defenses
3 Uncatalogued Species
3 Darkness Calling
Side Deck
1 Cromarius Blackfist
3 Skumm Bag'go
3 Smash
3 Vexmaster

New Koozar

1370610 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:18:57 GMT

Lol - this will be fast -but maybe i did miss something to put in ? Kagella+Broan or Jojabee+ Hex Doctor? Also SW Death or Taste of Divinity ?

Hero: Koo'zar

Allies: 33

4 x Kagella Shadowmark
3 x Broan-Charges-the-Fight
4 x Shadowfiend
4 x Offender Gora
4 x Bloodsoul
4 x Broderick Langford
4 x Marksman Glous
4 x Spectral Kitten

3x Skumm Bago

Abilities: 10

4 x United Front
3 x Shadow word: Anguish
3x Taste of Divinity

Quests: 16

2 x Finkle Einhorn, At Your Service!
4 x One Draenei Junk
3 x Falling to Corruption
4 x Orders from Lady Vashj
3 x Eye of the Storm

Side Deck: 10

3 x Wubs Hexblade
4 x Moonkin Balckfist
3 x Dispel Magic

Demons, demons, demons! (Obliveron Decklist)

3099613 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:04:06 GMT

So, when Obliveron was first released in Hunt for Illidan, I wasn't so anxious about that lump of demon meat. It was only after they released Black Temple raid deck, when I really got excited about this concept, and I built a deck for deeeeemooooons!

When Blood of the Gladiators was released, I realized that there were not enough upgrades for this deck to work, and it was too vulnerable to such things as Spell Suppression, Slow, attachments like Curse of Fatigue, but now, after Scourgewar... that thing has changed...

Decklist - Obliveron

Allies:

4x Sister of Pain
4x Rhuunom
4x Thulthun
4x Warbringer Arix'amal
3x Apocanon
2x Phase Hound
2x Warlord Kalithresh
And yeah, 1x Hesriana (haven't got any more ;_;)

Abilities:

4x Doom Blossom
4x Crushing Shadows
4x Sudden Death
4x Spiritual Domination
3x Tidal Burst
2x Gut Shot
2x Serpent Form

Quests:

4x What Illidan Wants, Illidan Gets...
4x You Are Rakh'likh, Demon
3x Dark Horizon
1x Call To Arms: Arathi Basin

Side:

4x Arcing Smash
2x Ripped Through The Portal (this works very nicely with Hesriana, and you can also snatch Adam Eternium from your opponent, when he goes emo and leaves the play!)
2x Death Trap
2x Hateful Strike

What do you think? Any suggestions? I know the side isn't the best, but I've really haven't much thought about it.

Scougevar cards you think that will go in constructed meta

1370610 — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:53:34 GMT

Today looking at spoiler – really powerfull set - and these cards in my opinion can be interesting for constructed meta:

Druid:

Feline Grace for Cat form Druid

Natural Reposetion – destroy ability and euipment for 3 is just great

Natures Focus - replacing Starshot

Hunter:

Buzz, Bombard, Raptor Strike, Scorpid Sting are all good cards

Mage: Arcene Burst, Mana Saphire

Paladin: Hammer of the Divine

Priest: Dispersion

Rogue: Belligerence, Disarm Trap, Agressive Infiltration

Shaman: Feral Spirit, Squall Totem, Wind Shear ( This card is so Broken!! )

Warlock : Dreadsteed, Jekresh

Warrior: Reconstruct

Aliance Allies:

Flint Shadowmore

Zealot Kalinov

Mounts

Horde Allies.

Broderick Langford

Vanquisher Nolan

Mounts

Armor:

Boots of Whirling Mist

Wheapon: Fleshwerk Glaive, Trapper Rifle

Class quests

My First try to build a DK deck

2648787 — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:51:11 GMT

And Here we are, one day after the preview, I dash into the construction of a deck DK. After a frank analysis of cards, I am say that the DK would more be to direct to a solo game. Absent of management of abilities and equipments, I am to satisfy with putting talisman of the alliance. The deck is made without side, because I do not know too much what to put inside. I laise you to observe and to judge by you even.

Hero : Eronda Frostmoon

Ability :
---------

2 Army of dead
4 Corpse explosion
3 Unholy presence
4 Deathcharger

Weapons :
---------

3 Greatsword of the Ebon Blade
3 Edge of Oblivion
4 Reaper of Dark Sould
3 Blackout Truncheon
2 Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse

Armors :
--------

4 Bonefist Gauntlets
4 Breastplate of Undeath
3 Greathelm of the Scourge Champion

Allies :
--------

3 Valeos Chillheart
3 Pappy ironbane

Quest :
-------

4 In defense of halaa
3 Hazardous Materials
2 Corki's rancon
3 Big Game Hunter
4 Bane of the Illidari

Edit : -3 Talisman of the aliance
+ 3 Pappy ironbane

Survival Hunter post-Scourgewar

1948322 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:49:18 GMT

I've been tinkering with this deck for a long time now (Betrayer), and it might've become playable with Scourgewar coming out :

Hero : Kana Nassis - 61 cards

Quests (15)

Forces of Jaedenar x 3
Corki's Ransom x 3
Information Gathering x 3
The Ring of Blood : The Blue Brother x 3
Rescue the Survivors x 3

Abilities (26)

Lightning Reflexes x 4
Planned Assault x 4
Thrill of the Hunt x 4
Survival Instincts x 3
Snipe x 3
Explosive Trap x 3
Bombard x 3
Spoils of the Hunt x 2

Equipment (7)

Black Bow of the Betrayer x 3
Jin'Rokh x 2
Spaulders of Lost Secrets x 2

Allies (10)

Mikael the Blunt x 3
Scrapper Ironbane x 3
Bladehands Spigotgulp x 2
Pappy Ironbane x 2

Master Hero (3)

Kel'Thuzad x 3

Side (10)

Mikael the Blunt x 1
Pappy Ironbane x 1
Trophy Kill x 2
Band of Vile Agression x 3
Topple x 3

I feel that all the deck has really needed was a reasonable finisher (Kel'Thuzad), some equipment and ability hate (Bombard) and a way to deal with untargetable / escape artist allies (Bombard & Spoils). One particular card I want to try out is Cloak of Darkness, but I'm not sure if it's worth the investment - also, how to play around Mystic Denial?

Please help the deck evolve with your building critique and ideas.

Thanks,
kanczy :)

Draft

3100601 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:25:16 GMT

Any1 got any draft strats, or any good suggestions for up coming draft?

Fire Mage Aggro - very nearly very good

2383840 — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:14:54 GMT

This deck is currently almost good enough... but not quite. It very reliably NEARLY kills people, then finds itself not quite getting there. Over the weekend I lost to a couple of decks that were able to heal huge chunks of damage off themselves and that broke me - I deal lethal damage in every game, they just heal a bunch in the meantime and I run out of gas.

In case I've missed anything I could be doing differently I'm going to throw it out to the floor for suggestions...

Hero: Cerripha Sunstreak
(Blood Elf Fire Mage. 1 -> deal 3 fire to target hero)

4 Offender Gora
4 Bloodsoul
3 Dark Archon Farrum
4 Marksman Glous
4 Sha'Kar
3 Johnny Rotten
(22)

4 Blistering Fire
4 Everlasting Cold
4 The Taste Of Arcana
4 Blast Wave
4 Brittilize
3 Magma Spike
(23)

3 Falling Into Corruption
4 Dr Boom
4 One Draenei's Junk
4 Orders From Lady Vashj
(15)

Side Decks
3 Counterspell or ???
3 Blizzard or Combustion (combustion is better vs Black Ice, Blizzard is better vs other rush decks)
4 Wub's Cursed Hexblade

Like I've said, I think the deck is very close to being very good and sitting alongside Desecrator and Kil'Zin as an aggro threat - it's slightly faster than either of those decks, but has less legs into the midgame and runs out of steam if it doesn't get in early. I feel like if I could simply stop that one turn where they heal a bunch I'd win, which is why I have Counterspell in the side deck now (I was trying Veteran's Dreadweave Belt but it didn't work).

So I'm pretty close to closing the door on it and accepting that if you want to play this deck it should really be Kil'Zin or Desecrator, but I'm open to suggestions!

the blackice and myriam reign officially over?

2014889 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:21:39 GMT

with scourgewar comming out and after seeing the cards in it...I think its time to dethrown Blackice and say goodbye to myriam's reign as king. scourgewar is gonna re-shape the game and I personally cannot wait!

My first attempt at a Ret Paladin solo deck

2237570 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:00:55 GMT

Here's what I have for the deck so far. Right now, I'm not sure whether or not I want to go Horde or Alliance. These are the cards I own and too bad for me, I don't have any Tankatronic Goggles or else I would add those. Let me know what you guys think. I'm currently unsure about my Abilities and Resources.. and whether my deck has room for Stronghold Gauntlets.

Grand Marshal Goldensword

Weapons (12):
4x Brutal Gladiator's Greatsword
4x Vindicator's Brand
3x Merciless Gladiator's Greatsword
1x Gorehowl

Equipment (21):
4x Bonefist Gauntlets
3x Doomplate Shoulderguards
3x Slayer's Waistguard
3x Amani Mask of Death
3x Boots of the Resilient
3x Berserker Bracers
2x Ornate Adamantium Breastplate

Abilities (12):
4x Resolute Aura
4x Glimmer of Hope
4x Hammer of Justice
4x Penance
2x Owned!

Resources (13):
4x Eye of the storm
4x Big Game Hunter
3x Wanted: Hogger
2x A Warm Welcome
2x Orders From Lady Vashj

--

60 Cards total.

Some Jonas strategy questions.

2634938 — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:22:00 GMT

So, i played Jonas for a long time now.
and i would like to still get some advice about these:
Pick Pocket OR Stab in the dark
Warmault OR Broken Toe
+ is For Great Honor. Good quest? (i play myself, i see it works VERY well)

Detect trap OR Blackout trun. (other to side)

My own Jonas deck list. - Customed
Jonas

2x Illidan Stormrage

3x Vengeful Gladiator's Vestment
3x Blackout Trun.

3x Purloin
4x Deathblow
3x Eviscerate
4x Overkill
4x Surge of Adrenaline
3x Kidney Shot
2x Stab in the Dark
3x Thud!
3x Hateful Strike
3x Detect trap
2x Carnage
2x Cannibalize

4x Broken Toe
4x Forces of Jaedenar
3x Warmault
4x For Great honor
2x The Darkmoon faire
-61

Side:
1x Lady Vashj
1x Kael'thas
3x Cromarius Blackfist
2x Prey on the Weak
xX something
-10

How you like?

Blackice Problem

1261127 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:13:28 GMT

Hey guys, I tried searching before posting this =] Basically Im looking for an Anti Blackice deck. PRE-Scourge War.

It doesn't have to beat any other deck, only blackice, consistently. Unfortunately, in my area there are 4 blackice players and they always play the same decks and its really boring. I have tried and tried lots of my own decks, but I cannot break through.

I don't want to make a blackice deck, and I only have 1 weldon. Is there anyone who could show me a nice deck to throw a spanner in their works =]

The key thing being, it doesn't have to beat any other deck type, just net deck black ice.

Thanks!

Daspien Updated

1370610 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:35:04 GMT

Trying to update Daspien - Any advices are welcome. Wander about Deadly Throw - but not enough combo cards i think.

Hero: Daspien

Quests/Loc ( 16)

3 Silvermoon City

4 One Draenei Junk

4 Orders from Lady Vash

2 Akamas Promise

3 Junkboxes Needed

Ablities: ( 18)

4 Suprise Attacks

4 Sinister Strike

4 Jackknife

3 Vanish

3 Backstab

Equipment ( 26)

4 Whispering Blade

3 Retainers Blade

4 Ashtongue Blade

4 Black Amnesty

3 Strikers Mark

4 Eye of Rend

4 Boots of Whirling Mist

Side:

2 Burgle

3 Kick

3 Cloak of Shadows

1 Vanish

1 Junkboxes Needed

Post ScourgeWar: Death Knight

1249351 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:36:24 GMT

So I kept testing some DK possibilities, including control with JinRokh as finish, WOTF/Ring of Invicibility control, Weapon rush, Ghoul deck and Diseases solo and came up with, imo, best of them.
And thats that Diseases nearly-Solo deck.
Many classes offer poor ability removal and while you play like... 16 ongoings, its hard to deal with them with your poor cromariuses :D
Too bad it kinda forces me into Alliance and that hero is damn ugly. Triton is badass... well nvm.

4x Icy Torment
4x Plague Strike
4x Icy Touch
4x Corpse Explosion
3x Blood Presence
3x Mind Freeze

4x Adam Eternum
4x Deathcharger

4x Extract of Necromatic Power
3x Berserk Bracers
4x Blackout Truchon
4x Edge of Oblivion

4x Eye of the Storm
4x Akamas Promise
4x Orders from Lady Vashj
3x Corkis Ransom

Side Deck:
3x Army of the Death
4x Chipper Ironbane
1x Blood Presence
2x Weldon Barow

EDIT: Woohoo 900th post

Warrior Bleed Deck

2067168 — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:00:20 GMT

So with the release of Scourgewar the first viable warrior bleed deck might come into existence.

Mind you, all of these cards and ideas are off the top of my head.

For bleeds, it uses:

Rend
Bleed
Collateral Damage
Gushing Wound
Provoke

To boost the bleed damage, it uses:

Recklessness
Those gloves with +1 to ability damage
Inspiring presence allies

To help mitigate damage, it uses:

Defiance (defiance + provoke against a deck with no weapons, if it works the way I am imagining it, is brutal. . .)
Boots of the Resilient (after a few turns of recklessness, it doesn't matter what they attack with, you'll need these to block it)
The shield that reduces all damage to 3 (forgot name, same deal as boots. . .a few turns of recklessness and stuff might be hitting you a bit too hard)

Taste for Blood to combo with collateral damage to draw a few cards easily.

Thoughts? Did I miss anything obvious?

EDIT: Other possibilities I just thought of:
Champion Stance (boost bleeds, reduce from 3 to 2 with shield out)
Killing Spree (Board clear with collateral damage)
Shield Block (Potentially free to play if shield is in play. . . Stalls for a turn to allow more bleed ticks)

My Warlock/Mage/Druid Noob Decks Need Work?

3080644 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:52:38 GMT

I have two different decks currently constructed and i only play against one person. We're both new to it and don't have that many good cards. I wouldn't mind some opinions on all three decks here, my two are the first two and my opponent is the third. His other deck isn't constructed at the moment but it's usually Sepirion the Poised :P

Hero: Pidge Filthfinder

x1 Noxel Shroudhaggle
x1 Elder Achillia
x1 "Bladehands" Spigotgulp
x1 Bimble Blackout
x1 Goldenmoon
x1 Envoy Aiden LeNoir
x1 Randipan
x1 "Quickhands" Spigotgulp
x1 Zumbly Fiddlespark
x1 Skaduzzle
x1 Tomadae the Magnificent

x1 Grimdron
x2 Velnoth
x1 Sarmoth
x2 Angrida
x1 Morfiel
x1 Phase Hound
x2 Infernal

x3 Clinging Curse :D
x1 Cremate
x1 No Mans Land
x1 Drain Will
x1 Suspended Curse
x1 Demonologists Pact
x1 Incinerate
x1 Curse of Weakness
x1 Eye of Kilrogg
x1 Curse of Midnight
x1 Immolate
x1 Curse of Endless Suffering (i need moooore)
x1 Soulstone
x1 Shadow Bolt
x1 Cull the Weak
x1 Demon Armor

x2 Arathi Basin

x1 Tirisfal Wand of Ascendancy
x1 Wand of Biting Cold
x1 Wand of Prismatic Focus

x1 Stormpike Insignia

x1 Mana-Etched Spaulders
x1 Whitemanes Chapeau
x1 Akamas Sash

x1 Chasing A-Me 01
x1 Blueleaf Tubers
x1 The Secret Compromised
x1 The Eye of Command
x1 Concerted Efforts
x1 What Illidan Wants, Illidan Gets...
x1 Proving Grounds
x1 Call to Arms: Arathi Basin
x1 Rise and Be Recognized
x1 Oshu'gun Crystal Powder
x1 The Path of Conquest

So thats my lock deck. I want to get a diferent hero; my horde one was better but when I got that Goldenmoon card I went alliance gnome which still surprises me... Any suggestions for a good Alliance lock? I'm going to have money soon so I need suggestions on how to make this deck better. Now for my secondary deck:

Hero: Phosphus the Everburning

x1 Kino the Cold
x1 Forager Cloudbloom
x3 Waz'luk
x2 Nathaniel Voran
x1 Natasha Hutchins
x1 Mojo Masher Shakko
x1 Benethor Draigo
x1 Morik
x1 Zi'mo
x1 Gladiator Zi'mo
x1 Morkad Sharptooth
x2 Arnold Flem
x1 Iku'tak
x1 Roger Mortis
x1 Mistress Naila Flameburst
x1 Drek'Thar EL OH EL i love him

x2 Sear
x1 Everlasting Cold
x1 Disappear
x1 Spell Ricochet
x2 Arcane Intuition
x1 Brittilize
x1 Blizzard
x1 Arcane Warding
x1 Frigid Winds
x1 Blast Wave
x1 Smoke or Croak
x1 Mage Armor
x1 Engulfing Blaze
x1 Nether Fissure
x1 Brain Lock
x1 Supernova
x1 World in Flames
x1 Arcane Spikes
x1 Meltdown

x1 Alterad Valley
x1 Auchindoun Spirit Towers

x1 Illidari-Bane Mageblade
x1 Wand of Prismatic Focus

x1 Pinata
x1 Talisman of the Horde

x2 The Eye of Command
x2 Defusing the Threat
x1 Bolstering Our Defenses
x1 Akamas Promise
x1 For Great Honour
x1 Towers and Bunkers
x1 Hidden Enemies
x1 Call to Arms: Alterac Valley
x1 In Nightmares
x1 In Dreams
x1 Rise and Be Recognized
x1 Test of Faith

Theres my Phosphus :D I need more fire abilities and such but other than that I'm not sure. And now the third deck, my opponent who also needs a bit of help with his deck, the druid!

Hero: Morova of the Sands

x1 Kagra of the Crossroads
x1 Hex Doctor No'jin
x1 Dannon Spellsurge
x1 Erindae Firestrider
x1 Karina of Silvermoon
x1 Dayna Cousin-to-Sun
x1 Alecia Hall
x1 Ra'waza Stonetusk
x1 Skronk Skullseeker
x2 Blood Knight Kyria
x1 Kralnor
x1 Kam'pah
x1 Blood Knight Haeleth
x1 Brok Bloodcaller
x1 Karkas Deathhowl
x1 Sepirion
x1 Ghank
x1 Yula the Fair
x2 Kaelos Sunscream
x2 Sister Rot
x1 Orion
x1 Dawn Ravensdale
x1 Lu'ka de Wall
x2 Flame Bender Ta'jin

x1 Arcanist Renaan
x1 Arcanist Bartis
x1 Historian Firana
x2 Magistrix Valthin

x2 Brace or Mace
x1 Insect Swarm
x1 Entangling Roots
x1 No Mans Land
x1 Frigid Winds
x4 Regrowth (grumble grumble grr)
x1 Blessing of the Heavens
x1 Stormfire
x1 Revitalize
x1 Immobilize
x1 Celestial Shard
x1 Typhoon
x1 Rotten to the Spore

x1 Dryads Wrist Bindings
x1 Wastewalker Shoulderpads

x1 Whiteout Staff
x1 Apostle of Argus....>.>

x1 Legendary Heroes
x1 Scouring the Desert
x1 Proving Grounds
x1 The Fel and the Furious
x1 Poison Water
x1 Outland Sucks!
x1 Your Fortune Awaits You
x1 The Secret Compromised

Now, I realise that if you add them up, my mage is missing a card and his druid has an extra two. But my opponent is sleeping and Im not going to tamper with his deck. So whoever wants to help either me or him, it is greatly appreciated. Basically, what sets should we buy from, what cards should we change, what individual ones should we buy, maybe what heroes we should use? Anyways, sorry those lists are so long and thank you for your help :D

Scourge War Sneak Preview

2754560 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:46:32 GMT

So those of you who are going to a sneak preview... what class would you like to play? Why?

First try to build DK.

1249351 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:01:13 GMT

As because majority of cards were already spoiled, this is basic synopsis how I would like to build a deck:
You see, its basicly solo deck, what uses a lot of ally hate combined with Army, Corpse Exp and Deathcharger with Oblit, Presence, Grip and weapons to burst him down or make him cry thanks to JinRokh. This is not a rush, its mid game/later game so I am worried a lot about lack of hate, still hoping DK will see some. So this is for now what I want to build.

4x Corpse Explosion
4x Obliterate
4x Bloody Grip
3x Blood Presence
2x Army of the Death

4x Deathcharger
4x Rak Skyfury

3x Berserk Bracers
4x Bonefist Gauntlets

4x Blackout Truchon
4x Greatsword of Ebon Hope
3x Reaper of Dark Souls
3x JinRokh

4x Orders from Lady Vashj
4x Akamas Promise
3x Darkness Calling!
2x Finkle Einhorn, At Your Service!
2x Sunken Treasure

Do you think Dispersion is worth to go to shadow route?

2326196 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:33:49 GMT

Divine Spirit is a great card but Dispersion is also a great one. Combo with Solanion and you will make a ridiculous game (I think.)

What is your opinion? Which one will you choose?

Whats this missing? Disc Discard Priest

3100041 — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:44:21 GMT

So i was shadow priest for a while and could not get the draw power I wanted, so I went disc for Divine Spirit and am loving it so far. My delemma is I saw Elemental Focus Band and thought it might go well in this deck.

Horde Disc Priest
Discard
4 x touch of darkness
4 x lose control
4 x mental anguish
3 x vampiric tendrils
4 x mist of corrosion
2 x shadow word agony
Armors
3 x mana sphere shoulderguards
3 x Zhar'Doom
3 x elemental focus band
Quest
4 x rise and be reckognized
4 x forces of jaedenar
4 x Root of all Evil
3 x Arathi Basin
Misc.
4 x Divine Spirit
4 x Shadowfiends
4 x Shadow Sillhouettes
2 x equalize
3 x greater heal

62 cards total ... i was thinking about maybe knocking 1 fiend and 1 sillhouette out. But they really own if i can summon them second and fourth turn.
It is all meant for fast rush discard and harassment. If they lay out their hand and lay their top deck down I wait for a crucial equalize then destroy them. Mostly this deck is awesome but I just wanted constructive criticism. Most fun deck I have ever played. Love the shadow priest pets as creatures.

I found decks that can handle Black Temple: Epic Mode

3046351 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:34:28 GMT

I have been thinking a while on how to deal with Black Temple: Epic Mode. I have come close:

Warlock: Using Sarmoth and Fel Pact to force the boss and allies to attack this ally. Curse of Weakness to stop boss characters from attacking. Great for late game. Lots and lots of protectors.

Mage - Standard interrupting cards to stop those annoying abilities from reaching the table. Plus protecting cards from death. Also using frost to stop attacking bosses or allies.

Druid - Straight up healer. That is all he does.

Warrior - Dishing out massive damage with his weapons. The tank. Armor and weapons.

Hunter - Using the Phase Hound/Biscuit combo with ways of untapping him to attack again. Have weapons in the deck for support.

I thought about a direct damage Shaman to replace the Warlock for added damaging support. I have yet to try it. I think it would be ok, but I find that stopping boss attacks is better.

With the above decks, I got through everything and got the Betrayer down to 43 damage. One more turn and I would have won. The trouble is those damn events he has. 20 damage to everything sucks.

Suggestions welcome.

The Best Black Ice build

3052836 — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:23:12 GMT

Hey i was wondering what others thought was the best black ice make i made a version of it just by playing others who used it against me. It's been working out pretty nice at my local battleground just wanted to know what others thought of it and/or better versions of it. ty for you time -silva

Hero - Black ice

Abilities -18

Fizzle x 4

The taste of arcana x 4

Spell suppression x 4

Brittilize x 3

Nether Fracture x 3

Allies - 29

Myriam Starcaller x 4

Water elemental x 4

Weldon barov x 3

Dimzer the prestidigitator x 3

Anchorite kilandra x 4

Markman Glous x 4

Gromble the Apt x 3

Instructor Grialo x 2

Scrapper Ironbane x 2

Quests - 13

Marks of kil'jaden x 4

Tabards of the illidari x 2

Defias Brotherhood x 2

Corki's Ransom x 2

Eye of the storm x 3

Scourgewar at a glance......

1633575 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:18:53 GMT

"You must unlearn what you have learned". - Jedi Master Yoda

I think I have picked a perfect time to start playing again. This set is absolutely amazing. One thing that stood out for me most is the insane amount of speed added to the set. I feel control players will have their work cut out for them (again this is just a theory after glancing at the set).

We all know about Kilzin and Koozar rush, well they both just got faster. Along with other rush decks...

Broderick Langforth and Spectral Kitten: Both will attack atack boosts increasing both deck's reach. Although Kilzin is not as ally heavy as Koozar and the kitten could have compatibility issues with Shadowfiend. I think Broderick is a staple along side Bloodsoul.

Twilight Vanquisher Knolan: Wow if this was fire damage it would be broken (Wazluk). This also has been previewed already so not much to add. Seems best for Priest and Warlock.

Fang (2cc, A2-D4, Protector, Hunter, Pet, Assault 1 allies): Horde hunter will have access to Fang and Broderick so both allies and your hero can have assault. Although fang is a pet and his assault wont stack unless you can have more than one copy of him in play. he is pretty much a 3/4 for 2cc.

Fleshwork Throwing Glaive (1cc, a2, sw1, thrown, ranged, warrior rogue) Warrior will get a free kswing and Rogue will get +1 atk. Daspien likes :o). Keep in mind this is a ranged weapon so you can dualwield and have this out.

Demon heroes got a boost as well. I am not sure if this is a side effect or a focus. Mounts are good but the warlock mount is very good Warlock already has many different rush decks and the mount which can be used Obliveron is amazing.

Dreadsteed: (2cc, 0a, 4h, Mount, Warlock {demon}), Pay one less to complete quests. When you place a resource face up, your hero may deal 2 shadow damage to target hero or ally. OMG!!! Again warlok rush and Obliveron love this cards. Horde warlocks can use this with Broderick, Knolan, Spectral Kitten (probably not Herisenia is too good) Bloodsoul, Promise of Darkness, Steal Essence, Backlash etc.

Mother Misery the other demon hero gets access to an amazing quest. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. Demon heroes are only restricted to neutral quests, so does it matter if it class specific or not. As of right now I will assume she can use it and wait for the FAQ.

Whirlwind Weapon: (quest neutral, warrior class, on your turn pay 5 to complete, reward: Your hero does X melee damge to each opposing hero and ally, where X is the atk of a melee weapon you control. Wow a board sweep in a quest just what MM needed. Warrior also :o)

Another Quest that demon heroes can use that Obilveron will like as will warlock.

Deadsteed of Xoroth: (pay 4 to complete, Put target Demon ally into play if it cost less than or equal to the number of resources you control). I think i need to look at the rest of theese quests :0)

Anyway this is just a first glance of the set. since I am trying to catch up I was focused on rush decks and themes for now. Will expand later. Still many commons are missing from the list so more allies or weapons could get added to the list. As I see now 5-6 (6 if you want to count MM as rush) rush decks are all viable and look extremely fast. Looks like I will be turning guys sideways as i brush of the rust. Please post thought opinions about the current speed of this set.

Inspired

1998338 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:55:28 GMT

Hi guys

Been playing and tweaking this deck for a while now and I think it's finally where I want it. Played against Death Knight on Tuesday and had Frostguard and Atani out ... slowed the Death Knight down considerably since Atani just kept soaking up most of the Frost Damage. Afterwards we played 6 player multi and for the first time in a multi I had board dominance until the end, thanks to the Finishing Shouts.

Here we go ... comments and suggestions welcome:

4 x Finishing Shout
4 x Intensify Rage
4 x Puncture

4 x Atani of the Watch
4 x Instructor Giralo
4 x Vindicator Agran
4 x Vindicator Belian
4 x Vindicator Javlo
4 x Vindicator Kaldel

2 x Lightwarden's Band
2 x Medallion of the Lightbearer

4 x Marks of Kil'jaeden
4 x Return to the Aldor
4 x Tabards of the Illidari
4 x Uncatalogued Species

4 x Frostguard

Win Condition other than Illidan

3097633 — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:37:42 GMT

Hi, I am a new player and want to play a horde control or discard deck. I was wondering if there are any other win conditions besides Illidan. It seems that most of the decks use him. Thanks for the help.