1193591:

My math are really bad I guess :p

You're miscounting. For instance,

1193591:

Chance to deal 1 = hit only one = .5*.3^6 => 0,0003645

That value should be multiplied by 5, because there are 5 ways to hit only one hit on 5 dice. If H is hit and M is miss, there's:

HMMMM
MHMMM
MMHMM
MMMHM
MMMMH

Right now you're only counting the first case.

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"The beatings will continue until morale has improved."
- Standard corporate management technique

Im currently running the Jaina/Elanna/Kaustron build but i seem to be having problem going against Cairne. Any suggestions?

Btw, when the the best time to use Master Tactician ?

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1193591:

My math are really bad I guess :p

You're miscounting. For instance,

1193591:

Chance to deal 1 = hit only one = .5*.3^6 => 0,0003645

That value should be multiplied by 5, because there are 5 ways to hit only one hit on 5 dice. If H is hit and M is miss, there's:

HMMMM
MHMMM
MMHMM
MMMHM
MMMMH

Right now you're only counting the first case.

Yeah I noticed that during my smoke break 10 minutes ago :)

Been a while since I went to a Math class :p

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Number of weekly drafts : 44 and counting.
0-4 drop at worlds (pairings suck)
Once won a game in DMF, my opponent didn't show up.

Also, I think you'll have a lot less counting to do if you start from the other side. The cases are:

5 hits (auto-death, crits or defense doesn't matter) = 0.7 ^ 5

4 hits with crit (auto-death, defense doesn't matter) = (0.7 ^ 4 * 0.3 * 5) * (1 - (5/7)^4)

4 hits without crit, fail on defense = (0.7 ^ 4 * 0.3 * 5) * ((5/7)^4) * 0.3

That's without counting rerolls. 46.2595%. I'd estimate the full odds of double killing pets is about 25-30% at best.

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"The beatings will continue until morale has improved."
- Standard corporate management technique

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Im currently running the Jaina/Elanna/Kaustron build but i seem to be having problem going against Cairne. Any suggestions?

Btw, when the the best time to use Master Tactician ?

Arcane shot + Master Tactician to ready it?  Arcane Blast?

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Master Tactician and Rexxar...

1193591:

Oh sorry, I didn't know that 2 rerolls and Moonkin made you consistently hit for full with a crit...

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when i played against this team the first CL hit old bones then the water ele and then hit the hunter :P

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Minis Realm Champs Ky 2nd place
Top 8 in TCG
Louisville Ky-8/2/08 & 1/26/07
Nashville Tn-3/10/07 & 7/7/07
Columbus Oh-6/24/07
Indianapolis In-11/3/2007

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1193591:

Oh sorry, I didn't know that 2 rerolls and Moonkin made you consistently hit for full with a crit...

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when i played against this team the first CL hit old bones then the water ele and then hit the hunter :P

Then Kaustron and Jaina both insta-summon new pets, and you are out a Chain Lightning (and three ticks.)

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1069235:

1193591:

Oh sorry, I didn't know that 2 rerolls and Moonkin made you consistently hit for full with a crit...

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when i played against this team the first CL hit old bones then the water ele and then hit the hunter :P

Then Kaustron and Jaina both insta-summon new pets, and you are out a Chain Lightning (and three ticks.)

Apparently I wasn't screwed on those 3 ticks if by me doing this in almost every game I played against this team and won 6 of the 7 games then I guess it worked very well now didn't it?

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Minis Realm Champs Tn 8th place
Minis Realm Champs Ky 2nd place
Top 8 in TCG
Louisville Ky-8/2/08 & 1/26/07
Nashville Tn-3/10/07 & 7/7/07
Columbus Oh-6/24/07
Indianapolis In-11/3/2007

Here's the team list that i wil be playing at BG tomorrow.

Lady Jaina Proudmoore
Summon Greater WE
Arcane Blast
Ice Block

Vindicator Kaustron
Call Fury
Call Old Bones
Fog of War

Elanna Starbreeze
Master Tactician
Arcane Shot
Serpent Sting

Sugestions anyone?

Change the Elanna to a second Kaustron, :-P.

For realz, tho, I'd try and fit a Polymorph in place of Fog of War for use against Savin / HHT.

-Ben

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1207521:

Change the Elanna to a second Kaustron, :-P.

For realz, tho, I'd try and fit a Polymorph in place of Fog of War for use against Savin / HHT.

-Ben

Thanks Ben ... but i would if i could add in another Kaustron. Currently I only got 1 copy :(

Ben -

In both top 8s of the last two tournaments I noticed the silk bandage present.  Is this the response to a savvy warlock player believing they should not attack Jaina and potentially nullifying ice block?

It's primarily the result of the team not needing a ninth card, and my theorycraft that it was better than Ice Block against Mortimers, a matchup I had not tested. Ice Block is basically the nuts against Morts.

-Ben

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Isgee is, by definition, a snob.

1207521:

Change the Elanna to a second Kaustron, :-P

Just curious, is there a reason to run double Kaustron vs. single and Elanna for anything but the extra insta-pet? His attack is slower, his defenses are weaker, and he pushes the team to 26 honor. In the time I've been playing the Jaina team, Elanna has been a very valuable piece, not just for Master Tact, but also for her fast attack, which hurts pretty good. Also, since it's hard-ish to get VPs, seems like a good idea to stay at the 24 mark rather than going over to 26. I can certainly see why double Kaustron is strong, but I feel like Elanna in that spot helps the team a bit more than Kaustron. Not to say you're wrong since it obviously works very well, it's just what I think.

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That's about as massive a fail as it gets..
Laziest judge you'll ever meet. No, really.

I tried the Jaina/Kaustron/Elanna team earlier at my local BG, did not do so well. Honestly Fog of War did nutting, so .. i will add polymorph next weekend since i just got it today .. Ben were so right and i went hunting for the card after the BG. I will take out the Fog of War and maybe add anothe Old Bones together with Elanna, see if it works.