....I had enough.

I have made DOZENS of decks and I keep losing match and match, day in and day out, around the clock and ALWAYS and ALWAYS!

Im sick, tired and rather riled up at the moment. 30 losses in a STRAIGHT is the worst thing I ever had. And I meet players who have made casual decks and not the hardcore net decks, yet my ass is kicked into the fire within 6 seconds.

I can't stand losing anymore and.... honestly it's about time I reveal my current (and probably sucky) decks.

All have side decks and I am not trying netdecking stuff, but I still keep being pushed towards it and honestly, it's annoying.....

Anyways, here's my list. Flame me, laugh at me, kick me... do whatever, I dont simply care anymore. All are MWS of course, but still... I have tried tweaking with zero results.

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Blue Flame Mage Deck
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Hero: Blaize Brightspark

--Abilities--
Scorch x4
Fire Blast x4
Invocation x3
Living Pyre x4
Flamestrike x3
Fireball x4
Pyroblast x4
Mana Jade x4

--Allies--
Parvink x4
Jeleane Nightbreeze x4
Orderkeeper Vesra x3
Orderkeeper Calister x4
Anders Blankheart x4
Lowdown Luppo Shadefizzle x4
Voren'thal the Seer x2

--Quests--
The Defias Brotherhood x4
Operation Recombobulation x4
The Name of the Beast x4
Gahz'ridian x4

--Sidedeck--
Arcane Explosion x4
Sentry Gwynn x4
Master Mathias Shaw x2

Cause of death: Never drew the needed cards (Parvink, Vesra, Living Pyre), Mana Jade got destroyed. Never drew quests other than two starting ones. Allies outlasted and countered.


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Healing Priest Deck
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Hero: Mojo Mender Ja'nah

--Abilities--
Flash Heal x4
Lightwell x3
Power Word: Shield x4
Holy Fire x4
Salvation x4
Absorb Magic x4

--Equipment--
Leggings of Transcendence x4

--Allies--
Waz'luk x4
Vexmaster Nar'jo x4
Outrider Zarg x3
Broan Charges-the-Fight x4
Shadala x4
Kelvor Valorshine x4
Moko Hunts-at-Dawn x3
Kalnuf Eagleheart x3

--Quests--
Counterattack! x3
Against the Legion x3
Torek's Assault x4
The Name of the Beast x4

--Sidedeck--
Prayer of Healing x3
Prayer of Fortitude x3
Binding Heal x4

Cause of death: Allies killed off to quickly; Abilities and allies that outlast..


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Discard-o-hurt Deck
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Hero: Omedeus the Punisher

--Abilities--
Shadow Word: Pain x4
Shadow Word: Death x4
Shadow Weaving x4
Mind Spike x4
Mind Blast x3
Touch of Darkness x4
Shadowform x3
Melt Face x4
Vampiric Touch x4

--Allies--
Shadala x4
Tatulla the Reclaimer x4
Nyn'jah x4

--Quests--
Forces of Jaedenar x4
The Name of the Beast x4
The Roof of all Evil x4
Preparing for War x2

--Sidedeck--
Absorb Magic x4
Mental Anguish x4
Niyore of the Watch x2

Cause of death: Enemy heals. Voidfire Wand (hate this piece of crap instant win weapon -.-). Rushes. Too readied interrupts.


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Druid (Healer) Deck
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Hero: Cul Rendhoof

--Abilities--
Gift of the Wild x4
Tree of Life x4
Lifebloom x4
Sustain of Reclaim x4
Natural Selection x4
The Natural Order x4

--Equipment--
Hide of the Wild x3

--Allies--
Scout Omerrta x4
Waz'luk x4
Tatulla the Reclaimer x3
Doshura Risestrider x3
Nyn'jah x4

--Quests--
Forces of Jaedenar x4
The Name of the Beast x4
Torek's Assault x4
Counterattack! x3

--Sidedeck--
Warchief Thrall x3
Nazgrel, Advisor to Thrall x3
Outrider Zarg x4

Cause of death: Allies slain quickly, healing interrupted or destroyed. Runetusk decks (I dont need to describe...)


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Competetive Deck
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Hero: None

--Abilities, Allies, Equipment, Quests, Sidedeck--
None

Cause of death: Too many losses to even try make a good deck... T_T

Netdeck my friend. Just netdeck.

Cheers.

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My Best Recent Results: 5-0, 0-1 5/31 SF Regional

My suggestion: All you're decks seem to be a modified version of the real thing. I do the same myself, but try a mainstream deck that everyone uses (like yanna gift), and when you have had enough practise figuring out how every card helps the deck, find cards that do the same but are slightly different.

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From my experience so far, Direct Damage burn is not cost efficient in the game. It's a 1 for 1 and the damage is too minimal, compared to allies which would cost the same if not better, and most allies have a 2 for 1 edge to them, and they do consistant damage until killed. Lately some of the DD are getting better such as Stormshock.

Mages being the glass cannon class are not living up to their names, they have very few good direct damage cards, and a lot of them cost too much for too little damage. Also not enough good 2 for 1 direct damage cards for mages.

Healing should never be a focus in a 1v1 type of deck. Healing decks to me are more for raid and team games. 1v1 games should always focus on aggro and board control. The person who has both will win consistantly. Healing will put you back and most healing cards are 1 for 1.

You want to make decks that have good combos and look for cards that are like 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 types. Such as Stoneskin totem which will hinder and stall rushes, until they have a solution for it. Doshura Risestrider and Tatulla are a few good 2 for 1s a lot of ppl uses.

Oh DoT damage kills too slowly, you better off with another playset of allies or something else. DoTs only kill if you can make them do more damage, and that usually means you have to put in another card to do that, which messes up your deck ratio. But an ally like Anders Blanketheart would be a good Dot Booster, but even so I wouldn't play with DoTs.

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I really think you have the right idea for some of your decks just not enough to bring the game home for you.  A few finishers might be all thats needed for some of your decks.  Some finishers to look at: Ishanah, Greench, Varimathras, Highlord Bolvar.  There's more but these should get you headed in the right direction.

One thing I've noticted looking over your decks. You seem to love Name of the Beast. It's not that great unless you're playing with 50% of one type of card (ally, ability etc.). Swtich them out for Information Gathering.

Your Druid deck probably looks the best. As long as you switch out the healing and go for more aggro and stuff. You could also go for Alliance Druid and go for lots of protectors and Myriam. Druid is good because of The Natural Order. You could also try Warrior because it has some of the best abilities also. Puncture etc.

Cheers.

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My Best Recent Results: 5-0, 0-1 5/31 SF Regional

ok in all honesty net decking in my oppinon is the worst thing a card player can do. i played in the realm champs this weekend which was a giant feild of ressa and decacreator now me and my teamate played anchorite kailina which is the discipline priest and no when they post the top decklist of all champs mine wont be on it bcs fortantley i placed 10th. however i did not stoop to the lvl of netdecking but what i have learned. is there is nothing wrong with looking at the decks and seeing why they played the cards they did. ur decks all were playing cards that didnt match one another you have the correct idea to start and then u end with somethign totally diffrent normally decks like this will nvr work.
so my advice is dont look at the deck but cards and see how u could use tho cards in a deck of your own :) good luck feel free to msg me when ever im always up for helping another player.
oh btw the only reason i did'nt top 8 was bcs my round 5 win scooped to the guy who came in 8th :( lol but i still played with a deck that alot of people were talking about... bcs it was diffrent :)

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in only 3 regionals ive toped 4'd 2 of them and came in 9th in the other, top 32 dmf columbus, 12th at realm champs.. im on the brink of breaking into something..

No one is going to be the best at it on their first try. Try looking at it from another perspective, as I do. I may have lost 30 or more ways, instead I found 30 ways how not to win. This caused me to change my deck(s) over, and over, and over again. My mage deck went from 4 different deck types. My friends all got irritated because they seen the same cards but different heros or same heros but with different allies.

You may be like I am. One of my friends is a big magic gamer. He's played magic for years, this is why I can't beat him. While he's laughing through his teeth, though, I started placing cards that started to screw up his thinking. I've been reading these forums, looking at other decks to see how decks are made. Myself, I would read each card and see if the card works with my quests, hero and/or allies all at once. While my friend can throw in 1-3 cards of a different type and wipe the floor (or table) with my deck, more and more times do I get close into beating him. It just seemed like luck to me that somehow he got dual wield, with 2 big weapons and a couple of armor cards on his 4th turn but I stayed alive through it and got him down pretty far.

The game is just a fun game for me. I don't know if you're intending to goto tournaments or championships to face others but have fun. Oh, don't look for flames on these forums. I've read them enough that alot of people here are almost in the same boat as are or know what they're doing and will you give you some really great advice.

if you want to win run Halavar:
Heroic Strike
Mortal Strike
Twig of the World Tree x3
Quantum Blade x3
Whirlwind x3

Apprentice Merry
Jeleane Nightbreeze
Caretaker Heartwing
Kal'ai the Uplifting

Xanata the Lightsworn
Kulvo Jadefist
Myriam Starcaller

Rescue the Survivors!
Defias Brotherhood, The
Corki's Ransom x3

The above isn't actually a good deck, but it's got 3 good decks running around inside of it, figure them out and run one or two of them.

If you don't win at least 1 out of every 4 games then you need to go watch some good players play and figure out what the rules are that you are misunderstanding.

using a net-deck is a good idea, as long as you do so inorder to modify the deck to your own play style.

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ok in all honesty net decking in my oppinon is the worst thing a card player can do.

explain why it a new player (in ANY sport or game) should start from scratch and not learn from the best. in all honesty people who try to forge their own paths without help are called arrogant and prideful. the reason why society is so screwed today is because in general people aren't willing to learn from the mistakes of history.

what every new player should do is netdeck a rush deck, a combo deck and a control deck, play each deck at least 3 tournaments or battlegrounds and figure out which playing style suits them best. And then once they have the fundamentals and steady nerves to react then they start striking out on their own and tweaking the deck. The problem with a lot of players is they try to run before they can walk, and then get discouraged when they fall down hard.

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    Couldn't have put it better myself.  After a few weeks at the game using just a starter mage I thought Id "improve" it. IT FAILED.  Beaten an odd 15 times and won about 1 game.  Came here, oh look, top ranking decks in the world, Rogue.  Net decked a bit, threw a few different cards in because of money.  Now I play a successful timmo deck. Not successful much, but I can actually win now.

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Blue Flame Mage Deck Where is 5 dmg for 4!? And why u use such a crappy cards as quests & allys!?

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Blue Flame Mage Deck Where is 5 dmg for 4!? And why u use such a crappy cards as quests & allys!?

That had next to no value to help the poor guy out.  Maybe explaining why the quests and allies are crappy would help.

Anyway, I just started playing a couple of weeks to go, and I've netdecked my heart out.  The advice given earlier is solid:  Netdeck a control deck, a rush deck, and a combo deck.  Play them until you understand how they work.  That will help you strike out on your own.

Netdecking is a necessary evil.  In order to beat a netdeck, you have to know how to play it.  Once you have a good idea of the decks strengths and weaknesses, you stand a much better chance at beating it.

This is a Magic:  The Gathering article, but the same basic principles apply to all card games.  I'd say it's required reading for card games:

http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/expandnews.php?Article=3690

1366318:

ok in all honesty net decking in my oppinon is the worst thing a card player can do.

I was going to post my Taheo deck that isn't a netdeck, but started as one, but I was too busy re-inventing the wheel... Hopefully I will have that task completed before my recreation of the pharoahs tombs is completed, and then I might work on discovering fire again.

me and my teamate played anchorite kailina which is the discipline priest and no when they post the top decklist of all champs mine wont be on it bcs fortantley i placed 10th.

Please post your decklist on your own then. We would love to see what a truly original deck looks like.... Mostly so we can netdeck it.

 however i did not stoop to the lvl of netdecking but what i have learned. is there is nothing wrong with looking at the decks and seeing why they played the cards they did.

So.. its ok to look at a netdeck list, learn what works well, see how particular cards intereact in a way to give the player the best advantage possible, then ignore all of that and run something that doesn't utilize all that knowledge?

so my advice is dont look at the deck but cards and see how u could use tho cards in a deck of your own :) good luck feel free to msg me when ever im always up for helping another player.
oh btw the only reason i did'nt top 8 was bcs my round 5 win scooped to the guy who came in 8th :( lol but i still played with a deck that alot of people were talking about... bcs it was diffrent :)

Again, post your creative, unexpected and "diffrent" deck so we can see what true genius looks like.

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Netdecking isn't plagerism. The truth of the matter is, every idea you think you have, someone else either had it first or at the same time. If you take two experianced TCG players, and tell them to build xyz deck, the decks will be 85-90% the same, with the remaing 10% being thier spin on it.  This means, on average, including side deck, ~10 cards diffrent.

So really, you should netdeck. It will save you a lot of time getting to the framework you would eventually get to anyways. This doesn't mean you shouldn't try to strike out on your own, but ignoring netdecks is just going to have you spending a lot of time to get the same answers.

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