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Filling Out Deck List - Language on card or Local Language?

Last post 08-26-2008, 7:42 PM by Franklin Debrito. 14 replies.
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  •  08-19-2008, 4:32 AM 1376315

    Filling Out Deck List - Language on card or Local Language?

    My sister got a few Spanish Yugioh cards for her birthday and she was not sure what she is to put on her deck list
    The name as its printed on the card
    The English Name
    or Both with the Spanish name and then in () the English Name

    I told her I was not sure as I never had any one use a Non English card before and this was new for me also

    I like to know as she plans on entering a tourney at the end of the month with them

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  •  08-19-2008, 5:21 AM 1376347 in reply to 1376315

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    1330860:
    My sister got a few Spanish Yugioh cards for her birthday and she was not sure what she is to put on her deck list
    The name as its printed on the card
    The English Name
    or Both with the Spanish name and then in () the English Name

    I'm also not sure, since I think it might depend on the headjudge and/or the tournament organizer of the event.

    Maybe the best solution would be to list the english name of the card (with the spanish name in brackets where necessary/appropriate).

    So judges can take the spanish name as a hint that there is at least one card which is not in english, but can rely on the english names for the purpose of checking the decklist.

  •  08-19-2008, 7:58 AM 1376545 in reply to 1376315

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    I would definately put the local language name on the decklist since the Judge will probably not recognize the name otherwise.  Also, remember that you need a local language translation outside of the deck for any card not in the local language.

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  •  08-19-2008, 8:41 AM 1376693 in reply to 1376545

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    As my duties sometimes include deck checking I would prefer something like:

    1   Mago de la Fe'  <Magician of Faith, Spanish>

    That is in order:

    1. Clearly written count number.

        It is sometimes hard to tell the difference between a sloppy 2 and a sloppy 3

    2. Actual name on the card (not the local language equivalent)

    3. Local language equivalent in parens, brackets, etc.

     

    And please be sure to have a local language equivalent, just in case.


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  •  08-19-2008, 9:03 AM 1376806 in reply to 1376693

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    PLEASE use the local language equivalent.

    This is so that the judges can easily read your decklist and make sure there is nothing illegal about it. The problem with putting both is that for the most part, that wont fit on a line in the decklist and its alot more to read.

    We as judges only care what language the card is in if the player does not have the local language text available. When it comes to deck checking most judges are able to recognise the pictures for most of the cards players use. If theres a card thats unfamiliar, after the deckcheck they can keep the card seperate from the deck and ask to see the local language equivalent to confirm.


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  •  08-19-2008, 2:19 PM 1377840 in reply to 1376806

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    My final and probably better suggestion is when at a Shonen Jump tournament, check with the Deck Check Team Leader and ask them how they would like you to handle your Mago de la Fe'/Magician of Faith or similar non-local language card.

    A large enough regional should also have a Deck Check team leader...ask them at your regionals.

    When you have a very long name I have seen some people use two lines and put them as such

    1  Gladiator Beast's Battle

    x     Archfiend Shield


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  •  08-19-2008, 3:14 PM 1377978 in reply to 1377840

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    I would use the local language.  The purpose of the Deck List is to provide a list of the cards you are using in your Deck.  There is no need to provide additional information besides Name and Quantity.  Providing information such as Foreign Name, Rarity, Set Number will just cause unneeded clutter on the Deck List.

    This does not mean that I am saying you shouldn't do it, its just not required.  Maybe even placing an (*) next to the name and providing a small note on the bottom saying that (*)= Foreign Card.


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  •  08-19-2008, 3:30 PM 1377998 in reply to 1376315

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    1330860:
    My sister got a few Spanish Yugioh cards for her birthday and she was not sure what she is to put on her deck list
    The name as its printed on the card
    The English Name
    or Both with the Spanish name and then in () the English Name

    I told her I was not sure as I never had any one use a Non English card before and this was new for me also

    I like to know as she plans on entering a tourney at the end of the month with them


    I have on a few different occasons ran different language cards, and i have always been told to put the local language card name on the list (along with total number of copies in the deck), as most judges don't know the names of cards in other languages and you only have so much space to write a card name. Also you do need a common language copy or a print out of its name, effect, and any thing else on the card that would have any relavance to game play (if you dont have the common language copy of the card i recomend getting a clear ledgible picture of the actual card for reference)
  •  08-19-2008, 8:15 PM 1378603 in reply to 1377998

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    I know I have a few of the cards she plan on useing
    What it is our store just got in Spanish Version of the Orignal 4 Starter Decks and they are selling them very cheaply  and a lot of players were telling us that because they are cheaper then the english version we should just get them  so I picked up 2 Kaiba Starter Decks 1 for me and 1 for her and she told me she wants to use it on the tourney

    So I thought it would be niced to know how she has to do her deck list before I type the hole thing up and they say that no Right

    Thank you

    I might put both names on hers for now that way she will know and that the Judge will also know what the card is

    Again Thank you very much

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  •  08-19-2008, 8:27 PM 1378624 in reply to 1378603

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    The best answer I can give is "When in doubt, ask the Head Judge".

    My son ran 3 Enemy Controllers in his SJC deck.  1 was English, 1 was Spanish and the 3rd was Portugese.  He had an English translation on a piece of paper in his pocket, NOT IN HIS DECKBOX, just in case.

    We even had a player ask if for the English translation, could he just point to the giant "Crush Card Virus" hanging from the rafters? lol


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  •  08-26-2008, 3:06 AM 1391158 in reply to 1376315

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    All the cards on the deck list should be in a consistent language. It should be written in only 1 language as listing a card name in 2 languages on the same list will only result in confusion.

    Preferably the local language should be used but it would NOT be fair to penalize someone if they use a non-local language. We must respect the fact that some players are travelling from other countries for large events.


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  •  08-26-2008, 8:10 AM 1391456 in reply to 1391158

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    2176346:

    All the cards on the deck list should be in a consistent language. It should be written in only 1 language as listing a card name in 2 languages on the same list will only result in confusion.

    Preferably the local language should be used but it would NOT be fair to penalize someone if they use a non-local language. We must respect the fact that some players are travelling from other countries for large events.

    However, if a non-local language is used, Judges may be unable to verify the deck list.  If it isn't an area with diverse language usage, then it can present problems to have a decklist in a non-standard language.

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  •  08-26-2008, 1:27 PM 1392153 in reply to 1391456

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    I talk to the head Judge and he say it would be ok for this

    Amount in deck -Name on the card -(English Name)

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  •  08-26-2008, 7:13 PM 1392728 in reply to 1391456

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    768006:
    2176346:

    All the cards on the deck list should be in a consistent language. It should be written in only 1 language as listing a card name in 2 languages on the same list will only result in confusion.

    Preferably the local language should be used but it would NOT be fair to penalize someone if they use a non-local language. We must respect the fact that some players are travelling from other countries for large events.

    However, if a non-local language is used, Judges may be unable to verify the deck list.  If it isn't an area with diverse language usage, then it can present problems to have a decklist in a non-standard language.

    The judges can always look through the deck and identify the cards from the picture or look up the card name online


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  •  08-26-2008, 7:42 PM 1392754 in reply to 1392728

    Re: What to put on the deck list

    The primary function of registering a deck list is to ensure that the individual's deck does not change throughout the course of the event.  This means registering it so that the individuals who have to read it can easily identify the contents written on it.  It is one of the reasons that if someone writes illegibly, they are often asked to re-write it.  It is also a reason why at Premier Level events, they do not allow you to abbreviate card titles (Like writing MST for Mystical Space Typhoon).  That being said, writing the contents of the deck list in a language that ALL of the judge staff can't read should not be encouraged.  Placing an asterisk (*) next to the name is acceptable, assuming you explain somewhere away from the Main Deck, Side Deck, and Extra Deck portion of the list what the asterisk represents.
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