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I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

Last post 08-28-2008, 1:16 PM by chaoscontrol2400. 59 replies.
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  •  08-05-2008, 9:31 AM 1345807

    I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    This is the deck that I played with this past Saturday (August 2nd) in Nashville. It's virtually the same deck that I got 15th place with in Knoxville. I just changed a couple of things:

    Monsters:(20)

    2 Cyber Dragon

    2 Slate Warrior

    2 Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer

    3 DD Assailant

    2 DD Warrior

    1 DD Warrior Lady

    1 Exiled Force

    1 Don Zaloog

    1 Snipe Hunter

    1 Neo-Spacian Grand Mole

    2 DD Crow

    1 Spirit Reaper

    1 Sangan

    Spells:(11)

    2 Reinforcement of the Army

    1 Smashing Ground

    1 Nobleman of Crossout

    1 Heavy Storm

    1 Mystical Space Typhoon

    1 Monster Reborn

    1 Premature Burial

    2 Book of Moon

    1 Enemy Controller

    Traps:(9)

    3 Bottomless Trap Hole

    3 Dimensional Prison

    1 Torrential Tribute

    1 Mirror Force

    1 Crush Card Virus

    Side Deck:

    2 Twister

    2 Prohibition

    2 Light Imprisoning Mirror

    3 Royal Oppression

    3 Dark Bribe

    3 Mask of Restrict

    Saturday I lost to 4 decks (3 in the regional and 1 in the win a box tournament): Twilight (Lightsworn+DAD), Volcanic Monarchs, Gladiator Beasts, and Lightsworn.

    Honestly, I'm not too worried about losing to Volcanic Monarchs because that deck usually isn't much of a problem for me. I'm just going to chalk that loss up to being a fluke. However, I do believe I have a true weakness for Gladiator Beasts and Lightsworn. I've decided to make some changes to my side deck to compensate for these weaknesses.

    New Side Deck:

    1 DD Crow

    1 Twister

    2 Prohibition

    2 Divine Wrath

    3 Royal Oppression

    3 Dark Bribe

    3 Mask of Restrict

    My biggest problem with Gladiator Beasts is Gyzarus. I already main deck 2 DD Crows, so I think side decking a 3rd one will give me extra Darius disruption. Also, the 3rd DD Crow will help me TREMENDOUSLY against Lightsworn. I'm cutting the Twisters down to 1 again. Most of the time I only side one in for game 2 anyway because I'm never 100% that my Lightsworn opponent is siding in Royal Decree. Not to mention I already run Heavy Storm, MST, and Snipe Hunter main deck to stop Royal Decree. 4 cards to their 2 sounds like pretty good odds to me. I also took out the 2 Light Imprisoning Mirrors and replaced it with 2 Divine Wraths. I have one thing to say about this switch: Phantom of Chaos. I side decked Light Imprisoning Mirrors, Royal Oppressions, and Dark Bribes against the Twilight Deck and lost mainly because NONE of those cards work against POC. Divine Wrath does. DW also works against a ton of other things too. I know that with a toolbox style deck it's bad to use cards that require discarding, but I think that only 2 "discard cost" cards out of a 40 card deck and a 15 card side deck shouldn't hurt me too badly. Anyway, what do you guys think of the changes?


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  •  08-05-2008, 9:26 PM 1347428 in reply to 1345807

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    - 1 Bottomless Trap Hole

    - 1 Crush Card -u dont have enough reliable targets for it

    - 1 Slate Warrior

    + 3 Royal Opression

    this should work alot better for ya slate warrior isint all that good of a card


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  •  08-05-2008, 9:47 PM 1347454 in reply to 1347428

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    i agree with + royal oppresions.  try to fit in 1 or 2 PMD for som control.
  •  08-06-2008, 7:28 AM 1347695 in reply to 1345807

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    Nashville, home town of paramore =)

    Anyway, looking at it your oppressions should be maindecked

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  •  08-06-2008, 10:10 AM 1348026 in reply to 1347428

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    2272967:

    - 1 Bottomless Trap Hole

    - 1 Crush Card -u dont have enough reliable targets for it

    - 1 Slate Warrior

    + 3 Royal Opression

    this should work alot better for ya slate warrior isint all that good of a card

    - 1 Bottomless? Are CRAZY? Bottomless WRECKS this format! I can kind of understand what you're saying about Crush Card, but I've play-tested it enough to realize that 4 targets works just fine. Check the decklists on Metagame.com too. Most of the Gladiator Beast decks run CCV with only 4 non-searchable targets too. Why would you think it's okay for them and not for me? As for Slate Warrior...well here's my answer to that:

    Slate Warrior is an amazing card for 5 reasons. #1-He can attack over Stratos. #2-He can attack over Legendary Jujitsu Master. #3-He can attack over EVERY non-fusion Gladiator Beast except for Hoplomus and a tagged in Laquari. #4- It's not very appealing to attack him with something bigger (your Jinzo/Monarch/PMD kills my Slate Warrior = my Cyber Dragon kills your Jinzo/Monarch/PMD next turn). #5- He's beautiful when both players are topdecking.

    Now, maindecking Royal Oppressions may seem like a good idea, but with all the Adam Corn Monarch decks going around it's actually a pretty bad idea these days. Not to mention, I wouldn't be able effectively play Cyber Dragon, Monster Reborn, or Premature Burial anymore (which is key to the aggro style of my deck). The way I see it, if I start out with good well-rounded cards (Cyber, Reborn, and Premat) I can side into either Royal Oppressions or Masks of Restricts (or both) for games 2 and 3. This way I don't have 3 potentially dead cards in my deck for game 1.

    Do you guys not have any advice for my side deck? That's the thing I'm most concerned with.


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  •  08-06-2008, 11:43 PM 1349987 in reply to 1348026

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    lol...i aint trying to argue but slate warrior is terrible...ur over hyping it...also u said bottomless rapes this format witch is true but so does opression u have to understand that cornarchs aren't the decks to be worried about its the glad beasts and DAD and lightswarm...dont get me wrong cornarchs are good but all u have to do it side out the opression wich are better to main and put in mask of restrick or deveine wrath or even pulling the rug......u make it sound like its hard to side against cornarchs...lol....its harder to stop glad beats and Lightswarm


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  •  08-07-2008, 7:53 AM 1350390 in reply to 1349987

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    I still think you think Slate's terrible just because he's not meta. Look man, I just try to look outside the box and play stuff that other people don't play. Slate Warrior may sound like a crappy idea to you, but have you ever tried running it in the right type of deck? He works tremendously well in aggro-control style decks (like mine) for the same reasons I mentioned above. And let me tell you this, being able to attack over Legendary Jujitsu Master is a HUGE plus. Do you realize how often people side that card in against me? Anyway, I try to not be a mindless drone that copies decks off the internet. That's why I choose to run a very solid card that you think is "terrible". I may not have done well at this last regional, but in Knoxville 2 weeks ago I beat the #1 rated player in Alabama with guess what? Slate Warrior.


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  •  08-07-2008, 8:51 AM 1350476 in reply to 1350390

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    I agree with your statement.. Many players quickly dismiss cards just because the top players don't include them in their decks. That does not mean that the card is crap.. it just means that most players will just stick to cards that have proven themselves to work.. look at some cards in the past, at one point people thought trap dustshoot was junk, and also mind control.. but now look!

    Anyway, as for your deck, have you tried Final Attack Orders?

    If you have that card set and they attack your face down Slate.. you can flip the Attack orders and watch them smash into a 2400 beatstick.

    :D
  •  08-07-2008, 8:52 AM 1350480 in reply to 1350476

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    1120224:
    I agree with your statement.. Many players quickly dismiss cards just because the top players don't include them in their decks. That does not mean that the card is crap.. it just means that most players will just stick to cards that have proven themselves to work.. look at some cards in the past, at one point people thought trap dustshoot was junk, and also mind control.. but now look!

    Anyway, as for your deck, have you tried Final Attack Orders?

    If you have that card set and they attack your face down Slate.. you can flip the Attack orders and watch them smash into a 2400 beatstick.

    :D

    Thanks for the support. And HOLY CRAP that's a good idea!


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  •  08-07-2008, 10:13 AM 1350633 in reply to 1350480

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    I still think you think Slate's terrible just because he's not meta. Look man, I just try to look outside the box and play stuff that other people don't play. Slate Warrior may sound like a crappy idea to you, but have you ever tried running it in the right type of deck? He works tremendously well in aggro-control style decks (like mine) for the same reasons I mentioned above. And let me tell you this, being able to attack over Legendary Jujitsu Master is a HUGE plus. Do you realize how often people side that card in against me? Anyway, I try to not be a mindless drone that copies decks off the internet. That's why I choose to run a very solid card that you think is "terrible". I may not have done well at this last regional, but in Knoxville 2 weeks ago I beat the #1 rated player in Alabama with guess what? Slate Warrior.

     

     

    LOL.....i find ur statement funny because i play a PACMAN deck at all the big tournements....lol...i got 4th at my past regional and i plan to take 1st since i got a crush card i even posted a bulletin to ask advice on what i should mabye add so dont think ur the only one who plays a diffrent deck i am just saying that slate warrior is to easily killed......and i never said i didnt like your deck i just dont like slate warrior -_-.......also theres other cards i would rather play over slate warrior thats all.


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  •  08-08-2008, 8:16 AM 1352909 in reply to 1350633

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    I'm going against my prideful insticts and playtesting my deck without Slate Warrior. Here's What I've come up with (I've underlined my changes).

    Monsters:(20)

    2 Cyber Dragon

    3 Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer

    3 DD Assailant

    3 DD Warrior

    1 DD Warrior Lady

    1 Exiled Force

    1 Don Zaloog

    1 Snipe Hunter

    1 Neo Spacian Grand Mole

    2 DD Crow

    1 Spirit Reaper

    1 Sangan

    Spells:(10)

    2 Reinforcement of the Army

    1 Smashing Ground

    1 Nobleman of Crossout

    1 Heavy Storm

    1 Mystical Space Typhoon

    1 Monster Reborn

    1 Premature Burial

    2 Book of Moon

    Traps:(10)

    3 Bottomless Trap Hole

    3 Dimensional Prison

    1 Return from the Different Dimension/ Ceasefire

    1 Torrential Tribute

    1 Mirror Force

    1 Crush Card Virus

    Side Deck:

    1 DD Crow

    1 Twister

    2 Prohibition

    2 Divine Wrath

    3 Royal Oppression

    3 Dark Bribe

    3 Mask of Restrict

       

    I'm really not sure about my particular trap lineup right now. RFTDD would be good since so many people run Bottomless and since I run 3 DD Assailants, 3 DD Warriors, and 1 DD Warrior Lady. However, Ceasfire is good since so many people run Solemn Judgement now. Sure it's a minus one, but so is Enemy Controller (and that's what I'd be taking out for it). What do you guys think?


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  •  08-08-2008, 11:02 AM 1353469 in reply to 1352909

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    why not try Bait Doll? Before you all trash me about this card think about it. It reveals a face down spell or trap for free. IF you nail solemn with it, your opponent eaither pays half of their LP to negate it or does nothing and lets solemn be destroyed. Even if it isnt a trap card, you can call your opponents bluff or reveal any trick plays they had in store for you. And after activation, Bait doll puts itself back in the deck.

    Not too bad of a card if u ask me


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  •  08-08-2008, 11:24 AM 1353536 in reply to 1353469

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    1120917:

    why not try Bait Doll? Before you all trash me about this card think about it. It reveals a face down spell or trap for free. IF you nail solemn with it, your opponent eaither pays half of their LP to negate it or does nothing and lets solemn be destroyed. Even if it isnt a trap card, you can call your opponents bluff or reveal any trick plays they had in store for you. And after activation, Bait doll puts itself back in the deck.

    Not too bad of a card if u ask me

    Not a bad idea. Where would you suggest that I put it though?


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  •  08-08-2008, 11:31 AM 1353556 in reply to 1353536

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    How important is nobleman of crossout in this deck? Also you could lose a D.D. Lady
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  •  08-08-2008, 12:37 PM 1353736 in reply to 1353556

    Re: I did pretty poorly with this in Nashville this past Saturday....

    Well....i think that Return is a better idea than Ceasefire......Also, the deck build is alot moe solid but....mabye u should work in PMD
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