Huntik Rules

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

1589794 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:49:48 GMT

863722:
It seems quite counter-intuitive to have Defoe 'alone' in a zone with a Stunned Suit and not be able to aim attacks at him.
Dan - can we have a clarification? It working like that makes no (common) sense.

It doesn't work out perfectly thematically, but these things are all true.
If DeFoe was going to be designed today, he'd say a "friendly unstunned Suit" but I don't feel it requires an errata (like Ymir or Tomb Enterance did) just for the purpose of better thematics at this point.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

863722 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:14:46 GMT

It seems quite counter-intuitive to have Defoe 'alone' in a zone with a Stunned Suit and not be able to aim attacks at him.

Dan - can we have a clarification? It working like that makes no (common) sense.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

966558 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:41:21 GMT

From what I understand, yes, it works just fine.

The Suit keeps its name and its type (Minor Hero).

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

1223749 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:32:13 GMT

Ok if i understand this correctly Defoe's ability Protect Me will also work if there is a stunned friendly suit in his zone as the suit would keep its name?

DeFoe
SAS_029, Organization Lieutenant
Evil, Major Hero,Seeker
Attack 6, Defense 3
Protect Me — If a friendly minor Suit is in my zone, attacks can't be aimed at me. Scapegoat — Free Action
Discard a Suit card to ready me.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

966558 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:52:19 GMT

Excellent.

Thanks again Dan. Much appreciated.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

1589794 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:50:43 GMT

966558:

Is it safe to assume that 400.10d is specifically for those effects that use the word 'alone'?

Correct. This is for powers like Sunhawk's and Fireblade's that use the word 'alone'.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

966558 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:09:36 GMT

Thank you very much Dan.

Is it safe to assume that 400.10d is specifically for those effects that use the word 'alone'?

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

1589794 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:56:34 GMT

You can use Tersly's exhaust action power in a zone with a stunned enemy hero.
Simon is correct in referencing section 407.1. A stunned hero is in its zone, and it keeps its controller so it will either be an enemy or friendly hero.

Huntik Comp Rules:
407.1 Some modifiers stun a hero or obstacle in play. A stunned card is exhausted and turned face down. It remains in its current zone, but it can’t block, ready, move, or enter any other zone. A stunned card has no text or tags, but it keeps its name, controller, owner, and any counters that are on it. Either player may look at a face-down stunned card at any time.

You cannot target a stunned hero (expect with powers that explicitly target stunned heroes), but Tersly's power does not target.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

966558 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:39:36 GMT

The closest thing I can find that supports your answer is..

Huntik Comp Rules:
400.10d A hero is alone in a zone if there are no other unstunned heroes in that zone. There can be features in a zone with a single hero, and that hero is still alone.

Dan, is this the correct rule to follow with regards to this question?

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

1860059 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:34:41 GMT

No, A stunned hero is treated as if its not in the zone. Unless an effect that specifically lists a stunned hero as a target.

Re: Stunned Heroes and Tersly

966558 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:32:23 GMT

Huntik Comp Rules:
407.1 Some modifiers stun a hero or obstacle in play. A stunned card is exhausted and turned face down. It remains in its current zone, but it can’t block, ready, move, or enter any other zone. A stunned card has no text or tags, but it keeps its name, controller, owner, and any counters that are on it. Either player may look at a face-down stunned card at any time.

Based off that rule, I would have to say a stunned hero would still be considered either friendly or an enemy.

Stunned Heroes and Tersly

840199 — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:28:56 GMT

Tersly (Good Minor Hero) has the text "Exhaust Action: If an enemy hero is in my zone, draw 2 cards"

Does a stunned hero count for this? I would assume so as it is still in the zone, but the question has come up

Thanks

Karl