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Important Announcement: Forbidden & Limited List Changes

Last post 05-22-2008, 8:05 AM by skey23. 124 replies.
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  •  05-14-2008, 8:17 PM 1173516 in reply to 1173031

    Re: Important Announcement: Forbidden & Limited List Changes

    1630410:
    ..."Elemental Hero Prisma is going to see a lot of play in Gladiator Beast decks in the near future, creating a play sequence which is absolutely overwhelming. While this play sequence won’t deplete your opponent of all his or her life points, its power wields almost complete control over any deck (especially Dark Armed Return). On turn 1, set a Gladiator Beast. On turn 2, summon Elemental Hero Prisma, sending a copy of Gladiator Beast Bestiari to the graveyard (making Elemental Hero Prisma’s name Gladiator Beast Bestiari, and an operable piece of summoning Gyzarus). You can then special summon Gladiator Beast Gyzarus, destroy two of your opponent’s cards, and attack directly for 2400 damage!

    At the end of the battle phase, you use Gyzarus’ effect to trade it for Gladiator Beast Darius and Gladiator Beast Laquari, which allows you to special summon the Bestiari you sent to the graveyard with Prisma’s effect. Now, you have the necessary components to special summon Gladiator Beast Heraklinos from your Fusion deck, and have the ability to stop any spell or trap card your opponent plays! At the end of this turn you have five cards in hand, Gladiator Beast Heraklinos on the field, and have already dealt 2400 damage.

    While this seems like a rather large extension of cards to commit to a combination attack, the chances of doing so are fairly strong. Elemental Hero Prisma is searchable from your deck with Reinforcement of the Army or E - Emergency Call, and drawing a Gladiator Beast is a fairly simple thing to do. Those are the only two cards you need in your opening hand to make this powerful combo work. The Gladiator Beast deck doesn’t even have to change much to bend to the application of Gyzarus..."

    Elemental Hero Prisma has been promoted a lot recently for Gladiator Beast Decks because of the combination mentioned by MokeyMokey11.

     

    Well I just want to clarify what makes this card a “need” for archiving the combo mentioned before. It is simply that by activating this card’s effect you can efficiently and fast send a gladiator beast to graveyard.

     

    Turning this card into Gladiator Beast Bestiari after normal summoning it doesn’t make it essential since normal summoning a Gladiator Beast Bestiari instead is basically the same thing. Which shouldn’t be difficult in a Gladiator Beast Deck with 3 copies of Gladiator Proving Ground.

     

    So again efficiently sending a gladiator best to graveyard is what make Elemental Hero Prisma an interesting option for this Deck. Simply because after summoning Gladiator Beast Darius (because of Gladiator Beast Gyzarus) this combo guarantees Gladiator Beast Darius’ effect (because of Elemental Hero Prisma) and because of that the summon of Gladiator Beast Heraklinos.

     

    So unless it is included another way for efficiently sending a Gladiator Beast to Graveyard in low turns Elemental Hero Prisma can be considered a “need” for this build. (with all the undesirable draws that this card and some support cards for it may bring)

     

    “On turn 1, set a Gladiator Beast.” This is basically the main weakness of the combination described. You need 2 gladiator beasts for summoning Gladiator Beast Gyzarus. Basically the just normal summoned Elemental Hero Prisma or Gladiator Beast Bestiari (if you already have a gladiator beast in the graveyard) plus the gladiator beast set or normal summoned during your past turn. The problem is that nothing guarantees the survival of that gladiator beast. For that you will need a backup card or simply a card that allows you to special summon a gladiator beast monster during the same turn you normal summoned Elemental Hero Prisma or Gladiator Beast Bestiari. In the first case that would add 1 more card to this 2 card combo but it would make it more reliable.


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  •  05-18-2008, 9:26 AM 1178050 in reply to 1160322

    Re: Important Announcement: Forbidden & Limited List Changes

    im d-f is gone for good.

    I saw a guy dueling with a dmoc ftk with ohm.

    This opposing dueler just stay there with 5 cards in this hand...like saying...when its my turn?

    He stood there for 5 minutes and did NOTHING and lose....I saw all the scene..I was like..OMG..whats this?....I enter a tournament to see a guy win?...


    dissapointing.
  •  05-22-2008, 7:03 AM 1183400 in reply to 1178050

    Re: Important Announcement: Forbidden & Limited List Changes

    1437409:
    im d-f is gone for good.

    I saw a guy dueling with a dmoc ftk with ohm.

    This opposing dueler just stay there with 5 cards in this hand...like saying...when its my turn?

    He stood there for 5 minutes and did NOTHING and lose....I saw all the scene..I was like..OMG..whats this?....I enter a tournament to see a guy win?...


    dissapointing.


    If he used D.Fusion or RFTDD, smack him, he cheated. Ohm FTK should really be near impossible right now.

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  •  05-22-2008, 7:59 AM 1183465 in reply to 1183400

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    Re: Important Announcement: Forbidden & Limited List Changes

    1885367:


    If he used D.Fusion or RFTDD, smack him, he cheated. Ohm FTK should really be near impossible right now.

     

    I think he meant before the new ban on DF came out.

     

    I used to run a Shadowpriestess Burn Deck before the OTK came out. It seems to me the only way to use it now is to stall untill you can get 5 darks on the field (one being shadowpriestess), and 5 darks removed from play (also 1 being shadowpriestess) and Return on the field. To do an OTK that is; Of course if they gained LP it won't work. But at the same time if doing a burn deck like I was you won't be trying for an OTK.



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  •  05-22-2008, 8:05 AM 1183471 in reply to 1183465

    Re: Important Announcement: Forbidden & Limited List Changes

    Ok, the list changes have been out long enough now.

    It is time for this thread to 'fade away' quietly....

    Simon Key

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