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I think that there's a slight mistake in the rules (nothing dramatic, but it has to be pointed out). As the game is now, there is no rule forbidding you to place a raid card in a deck, providing you fulfill its requirements. Nothing strange, up to there, since you would have to use a hero with the raid's icon, which is impossible. However, there are two heroes who would "fulfill" all requisites to use some of those cards. Those are Imp Lord Pinprik and Mother Misery. The first one would be able to use many raid abilities (those that deal fire damage), and the second one would be able to pick Magtheridon's weapon. Is it a mistake inside the rules, or did I miss a rule somewhere forbidding the use of such cards (or are they allowed, but that would seem strange, since most judges would think the card illegal anyways)?

In fact, the same could be said for any card that isn't supposed to be played, as a token for example.

Actually there is no rule for it, because you can with some cards. For example, the black temple minions are allowed to go into a regular deck if it meets the hero requirements.

As long as the back of the card matches the back of the regular cards and it is legal for that hero, you can put it in the deck. Also Tokens are not legal cards therefore do not need a rule stating they can not be included in the decks.

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This is actually covered by the list of legal sets in Tournament Policy:)

However, I believe that it is only in Tournaments that this would be illegal.
Also after further inspection, I believe that out of Molten Core there are only 2 abilities that Pinprik can use: Flames of the Incinerator (2 cost for 3 damage + DoT for 1) and Lava Spit (1 cost deal 2 to an ally). Now Flames of the Incinerator ain't half bad, but I personally don't think you should stretch out the match with DoTs if your playing Pinprik. So technically legal in non-tourney play but I don't think it would be too much of an issue.

All other cards specifically state either the name of the raid boss dealing the damage (i.e. Onyxia deals damage) or specifically states that the target is a Raiding Player (not the Raid Boss). And the weapon in question from Mag's Lair states that it may only be played if Magtheridon is unleashed, so unless you are raiding Mag with Mother Misery in your raid party you will never be able to put it into play (barring some obscene shenanigans that I am failing to think of at this moment).

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However, I believe that it is only in Tournaments that this would be illegal.

Outside of a tournament it's basically up to the players themselves to decide what is legal and what isn't because the rules documents and tournament policies only apply to a sanctioned event. It's up to the people participating in a non-sanctioned event to decide what rules they're going to use.

um that symbol in the upper right hand corner means its restricted to the molten core raid deck just like if a sword was there it means its restricted to warriors
so im guessing thats the logic behind  why even pinprik cant use it unless there are rules about it in the molten core raid deck rulebook

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um that symbol in the upper right hand corner means its restricted to the molten core raid deck just like if a sword was there it means its restricted to warriors
so im guessing thats the logic behind  why even pinprik cant use it unless there are rules about it in the molten core raid deck rulebook

Pinprick has special deckbuilding rules that ignore the usual rules. For example, he can play mage abilities even though the mage icon isn't on his card. That's the loophole being discussed--the Molten Core symbol in the corner doesn't exculde the card from a Pinprick deck. The only thing keeping players from using Molten Core cards in Pinprick is the list of legal sets in tournament policy.